Wow, Rashputin, just wow.
I think I will leave you to your deception.
Why is it that you guys cannot see that verse for what it really means, and that is spiritual and not physical?
Oh yes, not indwelt with the Spirit....just what I have been saying all along.
Thanks for posting.
What you've been saying all along is that you've done the same thing, walked away from Christ, therefore you do not follow Christ.
People who walk away from Christ have no faith in Christ. They can, like Eve, substitute their own understanding for faith in Christ if they like, but they have no life in them which is why they call Scipture they want to ignore "deception" the same way they call Jesus Christ Himself a liar then pretend they're "Christian".
John 15:6 If any one abide not in me, he shall be cast forth as a branch, and shall wither, and: they shall gather him up, and cast him into the fire, and he burneth.
John 15:7 If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, you shall ask whatever you will, and it shall be done unto you.
People who don't have the faith to physically obey Christ don't have the faith to spiritually follow Christ, either. They refuse to abide in Christ spiritually because Jesus Christ expects them to physically follow Jesus Christ as in :
Luke 6:46 And why call you me, Lord, Lord; and do not the things which I say?
I Corinthians 9:27 But I chastise my body, and bring it into subjection : lest perhaps, when I have preached to others, I myself should become a castaway.