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To: .45 Long Colt
If you would really like to understand the Catholic position, watch this video (it's under 2 minutes) that explains that passage in context: link
30 posted on 09/14/2013 2:19:56 PM PDT by matthewrobertolson
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To: matthewrobertolson

I have read your catechism in its entirety, among a myriad of other Catholic works. I know precisely what Rome teaches. I also know that I live under the explicit anathemas of Trent.


39 posted on 09/14/2013 3:10:14 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: matthewrobertolson

I watched the video but my position has not changed.

I am disabled yet born again of the Holy Spirit. While I am not physically or financially able to do much, I am able to lead others to a belief in Jesus. But looking from the outside in, it might appear I do nothing at all in service to Christ. Or as you put it, it might appear I “pay lip service to works.”

Nothing could be further from the truth and no born-again believer pays lip service to works. In fact, I believe the reason so many Catholics emphasize works is because they have not been baptized with the Spirit and do not have that assurance of their salvation. So what they can do is keep busy doing stuff (works) and this gives them comfort and leads them to think they are saved.

Even if I did not another thing after being saved (which is really not possible because the Spirit moves us to reach out to others), I would still be saved and still go to heaven. However, my rewards at the judgment would certainly be minimal. And, again, it is really not possible for one who has been born again to not lead others to Christ or do according to their gifts and talents.


84 posted on 09/14/2013 6:11:36 PM PDT by jodyel
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