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To: CynicalBear
Are you not savvy enough to realize there are numerous Greek lexicons on line that you could double check yourself? This Catholic tendency to attack the messenger is rather pathetic.

I am more than savvy enough. I am wondering why I should take your word over that of say... The Ph.D. that I studied New Testament Greek with in Graduate school. I have checked a number of sources and the unbiased secular ones agree with him and myself.

Feel free to have the last word

191 posted on 09/22/2013 4:33:26 PM PDT by verga (Lasciante ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate.)
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To: verga
Here is your original statement.

>>”you will see that the only definition is Church”<<

Now the word used in the Greek is ekklésia so let’s see what the definitions are.

Ekklésia
a gathering of citizens called out from their homes into some public place, an assembly an assembly of the people convened at the public place of the council for the purpose of deliberating the assembly of the Israelites any gathering or throng of men assembled by chance, tumultuously in a Christian sense an assembly of Christians gathered for worship in a religious meeting a company of Christian, or of those who, hoping for eternal salvation through Jesus Christ, observe their own religious rites, hold their own religious meetings, and manage their own affairs, according to regulations prescribed for the body for order's sake those who anywhere, in a city, village, constitute such a company and are united into one body the whole body of Christians scattered throughout the earth the assembly of faithful Christians already dead and received into heaven [http://www.biblestudytools.com/search/?q=ekklesia&s=References&rc=LEX&rc2=LEX%20GRK]

Acts 19: 39 But if ye enquire any thing concerning other matters, it shall be determined in a lawful assembly (ekklēsia).

ἐκκλησία, ἐκκλεσιας, ἡ (from ἔκκλητος called out or forth, and this from ἐκκαλέω); properly, a gathering of citizens called out from their homes into some public place; an assembly; so used. [http://biblesuite.com/thayers/1577.htm]

So your “only definition” seems rather off base to say the least. Unless of course you consider the pagans of Ephesus which are being talked to in Acts 19:39 to be part of your Roman Catholic Church.

192 posted on 09/22/2013 6:19:53 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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