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To: paladinan; BipolarBob; Iscool
>>Bad translation, I'm afraid; the Greek word for "perfect" (teleios) is nowhere to be found in that sentence.<<

Oh really? The Greek word actually used in that verse is ἄρτιος artios. Let’s look at what the “experts” have to say.

http://biblesuite.com/strongs/greek/739.htm
artios:
Original Word: ἄρτιος, ια, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: artios
Phonetic Spelling: (ar'-tee-os)
Short Definition: perfect, complete
Definition: perfect, complete, fitted, ready.

http://www.biblestudytools.com/search/?q=perfect&rc=LEX&rc2=LEX+GRK&ps=10&s=References
Artios fitted complete, perfect having reference apparently to "special aptitude for given uses"

Isn’t that something? The experts say the word means perfect or complete. Now, if God says something is complete would you suggest it’s less then perfect? You really need to do more study before you say someone else is wrong. Makes you look bad when you don’t. Allows people to think that whatever you say has been poorly researched and studied.

770 posted on 08/29/2013 10:40:15 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

The RC demurral to this, as always, takes the form of “scoping” arguments. Ah, if we scope this right we will see that this earthly organization is vested with what it says it is vested with. Ultimately that is a “dividing the word of truth” issue as well as a question of how to resolve the begged question.

The best defense here is not endless wrangles over words, but a good spiritual offense... living the life of Christ out in a visible, holy manner. Then questioning it becomes a matter of multiplying spiritual conspiracy theories, and will fall under its own insupportable weight. I humbly submit that the Crazy Evangelical model does win out here as it can explain the success of Jesus’ work in all the Christian communities where it is found. At the same time it has to be centered around exalting Christ. Not people’s egos!!


774 posted on 08/29/2013 10:51:58 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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