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To: SoothingDave; bkaycee; smvoice; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; blue-duncan; boatbums; Elsie
In other words, it is not a magic elixir, as you seem to think it is. Its effectiveness depends on the spiritual state of the recipient

Of yes, that can only be it. Kind of like blaming "poor catechises for the liberalism which Rome effectually fosters. I can however, speak for myself, as one who was raised devout RC and remained in the RCC for 6 years after i was manifestly born again and was very sincere, seeking to serve God as a lector and CC teacher, and believed in the "Real Presence" which i received regularly, but by which i realized no known effects, while hearing the word by evangelical preachers greatly did. You may say your mileage is different, but in Scripture it is the latter that souls gained life in themselves by, not by any literal eating.

751 posted on 08/29/2013 9:27:25 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

You stayed in the church for 6 years after you were baptized?


753 posted on 08/29/2013 9:47:54 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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Hey folks can we cut out the cattiness.

Yes there is a theological disagreement between the two communions as to exactly what the communion elements are. Symbols that keep their original essence (whatever spiritual activity takes place in their vicinity) or things that are miraculously transformed in their essence as they sit there while the officiant blesses them. The arguments from both sides reference the bible and our best understandings of the milieu.

But we all agree on the Cross, and because of the Cross we can refrain from getting cross! And I hope we can all recognize that Jesus is the boss! (And that He can even bless stubborn or ignorant people who do believe on Him but whose world views are even badly flawed, along the way He leads them to a better enlightenment.)

Hey, can we agree on “agape’ing” one another in this difficult journey? No matter where we are? Cut out the cattiness, turn on the love. Love which comes from God. I’m a Crazy Evangelical and I make it clear my theological “bias” but I also recognize the need for love, so this does not become a big ego stroking fest. That just blocks the grace of God.


757 posted on 08/29/2013 9:57:39 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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