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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; CynicalBear
the need to find scriptural references for every religious teaching

That the Bereans sought evidence of prophesies about Christ in the Bible, the Book that contains the prophesies, is ahem, unsurprising, is it? What is that supposed to prove? -- that the Bereans were not imbeciles? How is any doctrine deriving from this episode at all?

Where does the Bible say that no teaching may come from the Apostolic Church apart from the Bible? Words of Christ indicate otherwise:

I will ask the Father, and he shall give you another Paraclete, that he may abide with you for ever. [...] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you. (John 14:16,26)

For it hath seemed good to the Holy Ghost and to us, to lay no further burden upon you than these necessary things [the Council proceeds to abolish Mosaic Law written in the Bible] (Acts 15:28ff)

Your other distinctly Protestant dogma, Sola Scriptura is itself completely anti-scriptural and not compatible with the Holy Scripture, -- see above. And this: in Matthew 18:15-20 Christ gives the Christians the rule of faith, and teaches them how to resolve disputes. He says: "hear the Church". Please explain why at this moment, when the Heaven is put at our disposal, there is no mention of the Bible if that were supposed to be our rule of faith?

Your (plural) two fundamental distinctive doctrines, Sola Fide and Sola Scriptura both are recipes of men that contradict the Holy Word.

979 posted on 09/10/2013 5:49:32 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex; St_Thomas_Aquinas
>> Where does the Bible say that no teaching may come from the Apostolic Church apart from the Bible? Words of Christ indicate otherwise:<<

Surely you must be attempting to obfuscate. You can’t possibly expect us to believe that somehow those who came after the apostles would “remember” what Christ said could you? They weren’t there for crying out loud.

Let’s look at that verse 26 again in detail.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The word used in that text is hypomnēsei which is rightly translated “will bring to remembrance”. [http://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/14-26.htm]

Those who believe the RCC surely should see that the RCC is deceiving it’s followers. They couldn’t possibly “remember” what Christ said and did. And to try to say that Christ taught that the RCC can teach what is not in scripture especially from that text is ludicrous.

>> And this: in Matthew 18:15-20 Christ gives the Christians the rule of faith, and teaches them how to resolve disputes. He says: "hear the Church".<<

Matthew 18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

Once again the RCC deceives. The “church” there is referencing the local autonomous “assembly” of believers. Not some overriding central governing authority.

991 posted on 09/10/2013 11:33:22 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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