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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
To determine whether the Catholic Church today is Christ's Church, one must examine history. The Bible Itself cannot answer the question as to whether the Catholic Church is the Church that Christ founded.

Thank you for that admission. It then, however, undercuts every argument that I've ever seen other Catholics use to try to support the church.

970 posted on 09/09/2013 9:07:24 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
It then, however, undercuts every argument that I've ever seen other Catholics use to try to support the church.

How so?

If one considers the Bible simply as a historical document, one can see Christ establishing a church against which the gates of hell would not prevail (Mat 16:19), and declaring it authoritative in settling disputes. (Mat 18:17).

In a logical sense, how could the Bible tell us whether today's Catholic Church is the Church that Christ founded? I suppose an Apostle could have written that "in the year 2013, the church that will be headed by Pope Francis is the Church that Christ founded." But the Apostles didn't do that.

To determine whether today's Catholic Church is the Church that Christ founded, one simply has to examine the historical record. It's obvious to me that the Catholic Church can trace Its origin to Apostolic times. But I can't do the historical research for you or anyone else.

But as Cardinal Newman said, "to be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant."

978 posted on 09/10/2013 5:46:07 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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