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To: daniel1212; WVKayaker; CynicalBear; smvoice; metmom
Do you see the word "Heavenly"

I do. That is where our home is. If St. Timothy is to pray intercession while alive what is to stop him in Heaven?

they are not shown praying, but engaging in offering up prayers as incense

LOL. So offering a prayer is not evidence of praying?

So necromancy is forbidden because...

For whatever reason it was forbidden, that is your answer why you see no record of prayer to Elijah, Moses, etc. in the Old Testament.

Manoah would have known ...

Whatever you can speculate about his state of mind, the fact is he was sure he was going to die. That is your answer why we see no prayer to angels in the Old Testament: fear.

2,123 posted on 09/18/2013 6:34:34 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex; daniel1212; Elsie; CynicalBear; smvoice; metmom
If St. Timothy is to pray intercession while alive what is to stop him in Heaven?-annietooquick

Because he's dead!?

No hail Mary’s but you could get some holy soda crackers. They are good for the stomack ya know. -CB

But, but...

1 Timothy 5: 23 Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.


2,127 posted on 09/18/2013 7:50:45 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("The only place that the left hasn't placed the blame is on their agenda..." -Sarah Palin)
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To: annalex; WVKayaker; CynicalBear; smvoice; metmom
"If St. Timothy is to pray intercession while alive what is to stop him in Heaven?"

Fear of God could, whose word is forever settled in Heaven, and provides zero evidence of them engaging in intercession, while again, being able to offer up the prayers of saints or ask God questions does not translate into hearing and personally responding to incessant prayers, which only God is shown being able to do, much less provide sanction for addressing prayer to them.

"So offering [up] a prayer [in Heaven] is not evidence of [those in Heaven] praying?"

No, it is not evidence of them hearing and responding to prayers addressed to them, which remains the issue.

"the fact is he was sure he was going to die. That is your answer why we see no prayer to angels in the Old Testament: fear."

Absurd, as were your other attempted explanations. According to this logic they would not have prayed to God whom they really feared, supposing this being was God, for in fact it was (the angel of the Lord). And who appeared unto many others, such as Hagar, but compassionately treated her as He did to others, such as Elijah. (1Ki. 19:5-7) And which stories Israelites knew. Once again you kick hardly leaves the ground.

This is redundant, so thank you for a b u n d a n t l y providing evidence via your arguments continually being refuted and sophistry exposed for all to see that the Roman mindmeld is working effectively to ensure the subjects of it only allow themselves to see whatever is needed to defend Rome, not matter how much overreach and absurd extrapolation and reasoning it takes.

Your mission is over, and this transmission is ended.

2,128 posted on 09/18/2013 8:22:19 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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