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To: imardmd1
It doesn't represent any real text anywhere. NIV is based on that.

I shook the dust from you a long time past. Why try to stir the pot, when you have no criteria but your own OPINIONS?

I have studied the Scriptures for more than 40 years, and we disagree on so many things, I do not wish to debate with you further. It would be fruitless (John 15). Thanks, anyways.

New International Version
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The New International Version (NIV) is a completely original translation of the Bible developed by more than one hundred scholars working from the best available Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts.

The initial vision for the project was provided by a single individual – an engineer working with General Electric in Seattle by the name of Howard Long. Long was a lifelong devotee of the King James Version, but when he shared it with his friends he was distressed to find that it just didn’t connect. Long saw the need for a translation that captured the truths he loved in the language that his contemporaries spoke.

For 10 years, Long and a growing group of like-minded supporters drove this idea. The passion of one man became the passion of a church, and ultimately the passion of a whole group of denominations. And finally, in 1965, after several years of preparatory study, a trans-denominational and international group of scholars met in Palos Heights, Illinois, and agreed to begin work on the project – determining to not simply adapt an existing English version of the Bible but to start from scratch with the best available manuscripts in the original languages. Their conclusion was endorsed by a large number of church leaders who met in Chicago in 1966. ...

845 posted on 08/14/2013 11:18:38 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("Our nation endures and our government... has not perished from the earth."-Sarah Palin 7/1/13)
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To: WVKayaker
Why try to stir the pot, when you have no criteria but your own OPINIONS?

Speaking of the NIV, one of the translators, Stephen Paine was my Dad's Greek teacher at Houghton College, of which Paine later became the president. In their bachelor days, they roomed in the same house. That's just a coincidence, of course. However, I did read through his autobiography and got some feeling of his deep commitment to the NIV.

But to get another view, here are a couple of references tht might interest you sometime:

Sorenson, David H., Touch Not The Unclean Thing: The Text Issue and Separation, Northstar Baptist Ministrues, Duluth, MN (2001) ISBN 0-9711384-0-0, Lib. Cong. Control No. 2001132441
http://www.amazon.com/Touch-Not-Unclean-Thing-Separation/dp/0971138400
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New abt. $14.00 plus shipping
(You will find a scorching evaluation of this by Doug Kutilek, who is extremely biased, but cannot be overlooked. He is effectively rebuked by Will J. Kinney, though. You are probably aware of both, just showing that I am also. Personally, I am a Life Member of the Dean Burgon Society.)

Salliby, Charles, If The Foundations Be Destroyed, Pine Hill Press, Inc., Freeman, S. Dak. (1994) Lib. Cong. Card No. 94-90335
http://www.amazon.com/If-foundations-destroyed-Chick-Salliby/dp/B0006F36A0
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With no apology, but not offering nor caring to extend a debate --

852 posted on 08/15/2013 5:52:35 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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