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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
now i know i am only a Catholic and everyone knows we don’t know the Scriptures, and you obviously are a Bible expert, so i may need a little help.

For you, this may be true, but it is clear that you and all others who take this position cannot exercise spiritual discernment. Christ spoke in both literal language and in figurative-literal language. Referring to the bread-loaf, "This is my body" is figurative-literal language, the hearers knew that, as do spiritually mature people now.

The basis was explained clearly way back in this discussion. If you cannot grasp this simple explanation of the things of the Spirit, and think it is foolish, it is because you are blinded by false doctrine and cannot spiritually discern it.

That is why there is continual needless debate over this matter. The impasse is insurmountable except through intervention by the Holy Ghost, and He is not going to break down the barrier between those clinging to a natural mindset, and those moving on to spiritual rebirth, IMHO.

788 posted on 08/14/2013 6:54:12 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
This is my body" is figurative-literal language, the hearers knew that, as do spiritually mature people now.

What members of your church attended the Council of Nicea to fend off the gnostic and Arian heresies? Which of them put down the pelagius heresy.

Where was your church during the Council of Constantinople that settled the matter of the filoque?

Can you identify the members that helped to define the doctrine of the hypostatic union? Which of them was present at both Hippo and Carthage ordering the canon of the New Testament?

812 posted on 08/14/2013 3:01:03 PM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: imardmd1

is figurative-literal language

this is an interesting admission, in what sense is the language “literal”?

“The impasse is insurmountable except through intervention by the Holy Ghost”

i agree with this statement 100%, i wonder if you might share your opinion as to why it was not an issue for the first 15 centuries of the Christian era and why did the Holy Spirit choose to wait until the 16th century to enlighten some to the true doctrine?


828 posted on 08/14/2013 7:24:29 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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