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To: Brian Kopp DPM

OK. I’m glad to see yours was posted. Doesn’t look good, does it?


3 posted on 07/29/2013 8:21:21 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
I was actually able to post on yours, but I see that your version was deleted. That said, IMO this is the key section:

...what is most astonishing are the last five lines of the decree of July 11: "In addition to the above, the Holy Father Francis has directed that every religious of the congregation of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate is required to celebrate the liturgy according to the ordinary rite and that, if the occasion should arise, the use of the extraordinary form (Vetus Ordo) must be explicitly authorized by the competent authorities, for every religious and/or community that makes the request.” The astonishment stems from the fact that what is decreed contradicts the dispositions given by Benedict XVI, which for the celebration of the Mass in the ancient rite “sine populo" demand no previous request for authorization whatsoever:

8 posted on 07/29/2013 8:30:31 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("...Someone handed the keys to the Forum to the OPC and its sympathizers...")
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To: ebb tide; Brian Kopp DPM; netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; ...
In his address to the SA bishops, the pope comments:

The Pelagian solution. This basically appears as a form of restorationism. In dealing with the Church’s problems, a purely disciplinary solution is sought, through the restoration of outdated manners and forms which, even on the cultural level, are no longer meaningful. In Latin America it is usually to be found in small groups, in some new religious congregations, in tendencies to doctrinal or disciplinary “safety”. Basically it is static, although it is capable of inversion, in a process of regression. It seeks to “recover” the lost past.

BOMBSHELL SPEECH TO BISHOPS OF LATIN AMERICA FROM POPE FRANCIS

The presumption was one of an address to this specific group of prelates.

9 posted on 07/29/2013 8:33:48 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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