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Does the Catholic Church Teach "Doctrines of Demons?"
Catholic Answers ^ | July 21, 2013 | Tim Staples

Posted on 07/22/2013 2:45:09 PM PDT by NYer

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To: MarkBsnr

I did look it up; Yeshua shakes the dust off of his sandals when he encounters a catholic :o)


601 posted on 07/29/2013 4:49:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MarkBsnr

He blesses me daily; I haven’t gone wrong.


602 posted on 07/29/2013 4:51:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
I did look it up; Yeshua shakes the dust off of his sandals when he encounters a catholic :o)

No chapter, no verse. It doesn't get much funnier than reading your posts. Let me ask you this in all seriousness: how in the world do you expect anyone to take you seriously after what you post?

603 posted on 07/29/2013 4:55:09 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: editor-surveyor
He blesses me daily; I haven’t gone wrong.

Actually, He blesses us daily. Reading your posts beats Comedy Central. You have no Scripture for the most part; what Scripture you have usually bears no relation to the content of your post.

You keep referring to such as the 'nicolaitans', but with your usage of the term, I really have to wonder if you have any clue as to the meaning and the background. You indicate that your beliefs come from God, but when pressed, you usually revert back to the god in the mirror.

You profess to be Christian, but you insist on 'Yeshua'. Yet, you also insist on 'James' as Mary's second son. Do you understand why we have such a hard time taking you seriously?

604 posted on 07/29/2013 5:00:32 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Please, share some more of your knowledge of Hebrew with us.


605 posted on 07/29/2013 5:17:45 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: editor-surveyor

Matthew clearly wrote that Joseph and Mary did not have sexual relations til she gave birth. He says nothing about after the birth of Jesus and there is nothing in Scripture which says that the “brothers and sisters” of Jesus are blood brothers and sisters or who are their parents. Rather odd considering Scripture gives the parents/family relations of many of the people mentioned within it.

There is no verse which says Mary is the mother of any other children and there is no verse which says that Joseph and Mary had children.

*****The ‘till’ is what makes the point that Matthew sought to make, at the urging of the Holy Spirit.****

Matthew was writing to the Jewish community who knew Scripture and knew about the Christ. The point the Holy Spirit wished to make known in that verse is that Joseph was not the biological father of Jesus.


606 posted on 07/29/2013 6:03:57 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: Jvette

Matthew’s use of the word “till” clearly proves that he and everyone else knew full well that Joseph and Mary had sexual relations afte the birth of her first son.

Stop with the absurdities and illogic. Mary had many children.


607 posted on 07/29/2013 6:53:21 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: count-your-change

Please share some more of your total lack of knowledge of Yehova’s word.


608 posted on 07/29/2013 6:55:30 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MarkBsnr

Keep on rejecting the Word of Yehova.

Every reference I have ever posted is from the most accepted version of the word.\
Catholics just cannot accept the word of Yehova, and its total rejection of catholic “theology.”


609 posted on 07/29/2013 6:58:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MarkBsnr
Tell you what: read the Church Fathers and see where your lot went wrong.

Sure you ain't MORMON?

610 posted on 07/29/2013 7:02:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor

This train is going WAY too fast for the curve ahead!


611 posted on 07/29/2013 7:04:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I’m so anxious to see what happens when the modern day protege of Haman takes his place, standing on the mercy seat of the Ark of the Covenant, and demands worship.

How many catholics will realize that he is not Yeshua?

How many will sign up for his special magic decoder ring?

There’ll prolly be an app for their I phone too.


612 posted on 07/29/2013 7:17:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

You wrote:

“Yes, ancient Hebrew does have vowel points.

They consist of dots or short vertical lines under the unctuals. Those vowel points have been deliberately omitted in certain curcumstances, and in certain periods of time, but still preserved in master copies often enough that accuracy is not lost.”

What “master copies” might those be? So what are these “certain curcumstances” and “periods of time”?

The Great Scroll of Isaiah (2nd. cen b.c.)from the Dead Sea Scrolls has no vowel points.

Maybe you can point to a manuscript in Hebrew that does have vowel points....I’ll wait.


613 posted on 07/29/2013 7:17:58 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change

The practice I refer to obviously came later.

You love to twist and spam us with your strawmen.

There definitely has been a concerted effort to obscure Yehova’s name that he commanded that we proclaim.


614 posted on 07/29/2013 7:22:40 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Later? Like when?


615 posted on 07/29/2013 7:25:21 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change

Continuously for at least 1500 years.


616 posted on 07/29/2013 7:31:30 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: count-your-change

In an earlier post you referenced a treatise by the worlds foremost expert on ancient Hebrew that gave numerous examples of the presence of vowel points.

Why do you not just go back to it and read?


617 posted on 07/29/2013 7:36:59 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

1500 years? I said the Masorettes devised a system about 600 a.d.

Can you point to a single manuscript in Hebrew before then that had vowel points?


618 posted on 07/29/2013 7:42:27 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change

Refer back to my suggestion.

Stop trying to obfuscate the real points here with your cartoon comments.

Go back and read the expert that you mentioned.


619 posted on 07/29/2013 7:46:02 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

It wasn’t the question of whether vowel points were used but when and how we knew the sounds we make are correct.
You stated we could pronounce Biblical era Hebrew proper names correctly today but when pressed to explain how you knew that you couldn’t.

So you go read this expert. He might be of a help to you. Facile opinions are not same as knowledge.


620 posted on 07/29/2013 7:56:07 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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