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To: Heart-Rest
Like I told you daniel1212, the source you used is from a dissident Jesuit priest (Father Felix) who is strongly against many of the teachings of the Catholic Church. (Please read it again.)

. First, i did read it, and what is says is "we advise users to be cautious with the links and course material, which may be unorthodox." This utterly fails to prove he is fabricating his figures.

You are guilty of the genesis fallacy, which holds that if the source is suspect, all that it says must be wrong - or wrong when you find it impugns your vision of Rome.

And again, please remember, if you get all puffed up about your self-professed superior familiarity with the (sinfully truncated) Bible,

This ignores what i wrote, and if this is the manner of argumentation you must resort to then you had best quit before you lose even more credibility. Rome is the one who engages in self-professed superiority.

You also make outlandish claims about what most Evangelicals do, and about what most Catholics do.

Prove it. It is i who provide substantiation .

Do you see these kinds of grand pronouncements which you often make, but which you have no real way of knowing or checking the veracity of, as anything but extremely dishonest, and spurrious pronouncements?

Translated, faced with the testimony which impugns Rome, from many recognized sources, you must resort to simply dismissing them as extremely dishonest, and spurious.

You also try to equate the non-unity of personal beliefs and practices with diunity in the teachings of the Catholic Church. There is really only ONE set of real, true, official Catholic teachings. Not so, but the disagreements RCs can engage in extend to what Rc teachings mean. Now suppose you tell me if the CCC is an infallible document, and if the Imprimatur and Nihil Obstat gives assurance a teaching is valid, and your understanding Lumen Gentium (how do you worship the same god as Islam, and can properly baptized Prots be saved without repenting from basic common Prot teaching. And provide a list of which of the 3 (or 4) levels of the magisterium each RC teaching falls into? Or at least a list of all infallible teachings, and if and how much dissent a RC can engage in regarding non-infallible teachings.

How individual Catholics relate to those official teachings is merely a reflection of their own choices, but does NOT reflect disunity in the Catholic teachings themselves. However, the Protestant denominations DO have major, irreconcilable differences in their actual, true, official teachings.

That is misleading, as for an RC, irreconcilable differences is defined by her, and popes can sanction torture in one century and another state it is intrinsically evil, and another can state formal submission to the pope is necessary for salvation, and another contradictions. See here .

1,563 posted on 07/21/2013 2:21:19 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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1,564 posted on 07/21/2013 2:29:11 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. - Tacituss)
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