Yet you posted the passage in response to my question about those in heaven haveing an active role in what goes on here one earth. Active would indicate that there is communication between the two. Now you admit that there was no communication between the two but only between them and God which is restricted to heaven.
BTW I am quite male. You can ask my wife.
My post #919...was simply a reiteration of the exact same qualifiers I mentioned in my initial post to you (#777). (Please don't blame me if you happened to miss that caveat @ that post.)
Yet you posted the passage in response to my question about those in heaven haveing an active role in what goes on here one earth.
And lobbying the Lord--petitioning Him -- is carrying out an "active role in what goes on here on earth."
Active would indicate that there is communication between the two.
Not necessarily; and not assumable, either. Actively appealing to God is something I deem more "active" than simply God opening the ears of departed saints whereby He might allow them to hear a prayer or prayers plural.
If you were a ...
...say, a missionary to China during the era when it would have been basically impossible to either receive any messages from the West -- or send them to the West...
...just because I could LATER cite in your "BIO" how you petitioned the most powerful warlord in China to avenge violence on behalf of victims in the West...
...that would not be assumable that the given petition was somehow tied to any message your family may have tried to send to you while you were in that "impregnable" post in China...