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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“2. Yo provided no link between you 300 year start date and anything that ever happened previously.”

It is in the Apostolic Creed, for which we have evidence (from the Church fathers), describing the doctrine going to around the time of Chalcedon.

Arguing that you do not like the evidence I provided is one thing (because it doesn’t fit your arbitrary rule), arguing that I provided no evidence whatsoever for the doctrine is quite another.

The strongest scriptural evidence in favor of the communion of Saints is the fact that Christ himself proclaimed (when speaking of Abraham), that God was not a God of the dead but of the living. He argued that Abraham, though he had died, was presently alive.

I see no scriptural evidence for your position that saints are dead, and in fact, I would argue that’s contrary to the hope that Jesus christ provides of eternity with Him.


1,005 posted on 07/17/2013 7:38:31 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: JCBreckenridge

“I see no scriptural evidence for your position that saints are dead, and in fact, I would argue that’s contrary to the hope that Jesus christ provides of eternity with Him.”

On multiple posts I have been clear I do not believe this - yet you keep posting it. Please post with integrity.


1,009 posted on 07/17/2013 7:44:07 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. - Tacitus)
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To: JCBreckenridge

“Arguing that you do not like the evidence I provided is one thing (because it doesn’t fit your arbitrary rule), arguing that I provided no evidence whatsoever for the doctrine is quite another.

You have provided no evidence that directly connects the cultic practice with anything that was practiced by Christians for the first 300 years.

“The strongest scriptural evidence in favor of the communion of Saints is the fact that Christ himself proclaimed (when speaking of Abraham), that God was not a God of the dead but of the living. He argued that Abraham, though he had died, was presently alive.

That saints are alive is a separate issue from whether they can hear you, whether they pray for you or whether you should pray to them. Each of those issues is an argument from silence that you have not supported.

Each time you shift to change the discussion. Post with integrity if you are a Christian please. If you are not, it is pointless to interact with you.


1,010 posted on 07/17/2013 7:48:43 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. - Tacitus)
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