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Journey of grace - From lesbianism to the parking lot to church: An interview with author...
World Magazine ^ | March 8, 2013 | Marvin Olasky

Posted on 06/27/2013 12:08:33 PM PDT by scripter

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To: scripter
Her book. Get it, read it.

She has some interesting observations, on repentance and on sexual sin. Worth engaging.

21 posted on 06/27/2013 2:13:05 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means." --I. Montoya)
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To: elkfersupper

“Which god? Mankind has invented thousands of them.”

The one mankind DIDN’T invent.

“Also, a lot of people including me don’t think lesbianism is a sin.”

Yeah well that would more or less follow not believing in God. In fact if you don’t believe in God there is no sin at all; rather things you personally think simply good or bad.

Sometimes I consider how quiet and orderly and peaceful my world would be if only there were no God...


22 posted on 06/27/2013 2:28:03 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: little jeremiah

Good to see you, too. I’m at Capitola beach just thinking about everything and trying to pull everything together. Thanks for pinging it out.


23 posted on 06/27/2013 3:17:12 PM PDT by scripter
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To: elkfersupper
Have you ever heard of Michael Glatz, who found the Young Gay American magazine? He was most definitely gay and he walked away from the homosexual lifestyle.

Have you ever heard about Charlene Cochran? She founded Venus Magazine for lesbians. She also left the lifestyle and now uses her magazine to reach out to lesbians who want to leave the lifestyle.

24 posted on 06/27/2013 6:53:08 PM PDT by scripter
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To: scripter

Just for the record, she is no longer employed by SU, unsurprisingly.


25 posted on 06/27/2013 9:09:25 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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1 Corinthians 6;9-11 9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

God is in the business of redeeming mankind and making us new creatures in Christ.

2 Corinthians 5:17-21 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. 18 All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation. 20 Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. 21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

26 posted on 06/27/2013 9:16:31 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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Some people can and do change. Look at the lives of Bernard Natanson, Carol Everett and Norma McCorvey. Bob

I don't have to look past myself. That's all the evidence I need of the power of God.

Anyone can change, or rather God can change anyone. It's not something we have the power to do ourselves.

27 posted on 06/27/2013 9:18:48 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: scripter
Christian, what did you have to give up to be here?

Nothing and everything.

I didn't need to clean myself up to come to God. He met me where I was.

And it cost me everything because I have been crucified with Christ and died to self.

28 posted on 06/27/2013 9:28:22 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
Just for the record, she is no longer employed by SU, unsurprisingly.

"This is my conversion in a nutshell: I lost everything but the dog."

29 posted on 06/28/2013 7:09:37 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means." --I. Montoya)
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Have you ever heard of Michael Glatz?

Have you ever heard about Charlene Cochran?

I have. I just don't care.

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.

30 posted on 06/28/2013 7:47:35 AM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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You are so wrong.

What you’re saying - is that Jesus died for nothing.

The cross of Christ is a cleansing flood.

He can, and does change people.

He raises them from the dead brings them to life!!!


31 posted on 06/28/2013 8:13:45 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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You are so wrong. What you’re saying - is that Jesus died for nothing. The cross of Christ is a cleansing flood. He can, and does change people. He raises them from the dead brings them to life!!!

Fairy tales. Let me talk to one person that Jesus raised from being dead and I'll buy you a house.

32 posted on 06/28/2013 9:06:04 AM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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You said: No way to change that, some examples were provided of well known gays who changed and you don't care. I just find your don't care comment a little odd considering your first comment there's No way to change that.
33 posted on 06/28/2013 9:12:37 AM PDT by scripter
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No way to change that, some examples were provided of well known gays who changed and you don't care. I just find your don't care comment a little odd considering your first comment there's No way to change that.

Granted. Okay, there may be a way to change that, but I still don't care.

34 posted on 06/28/2013 9:30:11 AM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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Zebras are born zebras and will remain zebras until the body falls to death. Human beings are not born homosexual and they can cahnge and many have and continue to do so. And to claim "you don't care" is false, since you are spending time commenting on the thread. It is possible to change - not just from "being" a homosexual, but from "being" a thief, liar, drug addict, alcoholic, adulterer, backstabber - or any kind of sinful behavior! Fact. True. No doubt about it.

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35 posted on 06/28/2013 10:10:03 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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If you really didn’t care, you would not have made one comment on the thread.

I don’t care about NASCAR, American Idol, Dancing with the Stars, football, etc - so I never click on those threads, read them, or comment! That’s what people do on FR to topics they don’t care about!


36 posted on 06/28/2013 10:11:38 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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lj, I am still curious WHY the queers still claim it is in the genetics :/

Been proven so many times... in so many ways that it is NOT in the genes :/ Are they THAT stupid?
37 posted on 06/28/2013 10:15:02 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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I'm not sure why you would comment on a thread you don't care about.
38 posted on 06/28/2013 10:36:08 AM PDT by scripter
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To: little jeremiah

Indeed. The behavior of some appear inconsistent or simply lack common sense.


39 posted on 06/28/2013 10:40:09 AM PDT by scripter
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No, it’s not stupidity.

It’s all outline in their agenda from years ago. I will bump a thread in a bit with a summary from “After the Ball”, published in 1989, their plans to “Overhaul Straight America”.

This was consciously done, a lie, and they knew it is a lie. Just like the “10% are gay” lie - they knew it was a lie, and they pushed it to gain their objective.

The objective is to make those who practice sodomy a special “class” of people equivalent to blacks, or any other “minority” group, therefore under the protection of civil rights laws. That’s why that call those opposed to the normalization of homosexual acts “bigots”.

They keep promoting the lie that they are “born that way” although many admit they chose the “gay” life - to gain legal protection, status and to force everyone else to shut up.

And of course, now the out and out focus on children - “gay” children, “transgendered” children and so forth. This perversion and ruination of children is the freaking last straw. I don’t know what’s next, but IMHO there needs to be a massive pushback/shoveback from the rest of us. The only reason they’ve gained such power is that those who SHOULD have spoken the truth loud and clear didn’t. The few who did - Scott Lively, NARTH, Mass Resistence and a few more - were utterly demonized and had very little support from people and churches who SHOULD have supported them.

Silence and cowardice are the real reasons we’re at this low point.


40 posted on 06/28/2013 11:01:55 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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