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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Given that the Church in Rome was founded by St. Peter, I can’t see it.


41 posted on 06/13/2013 11:43:39 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: JCBreckenridge; Citizen Tom Paine
>> Given that the Church in Rome was founded by St. Peter,<<

Oh really? PETER is NOWHERE called the Apostle to the Gentiles! This precludes him from going to Rome to become the head of a Gentile community.

Peter’s commission was to the circumcised not to the Gentiles.

Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)" (Gal. 2:7-8).

It was Paul who was commissioned to be the apostle to the Roman Gentiles.

"And when James, Cephas [Peter], and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace [i.e., the gift or office] that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision" (Gal. 2:9).

II Timothy 1:11 "Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles."

Paul established the church in Rome.

"I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable" (Rom. 15:16).

In the first chapter of Romans Paul states clearly that it was he who established the church in Rome.

"I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established" (Rom. 1:11).

No one had established a church there before him. He emphatically stated he would not go into another church established by someone else.

"Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man’s foundation" (Rom. 15:20).

Would you argue not only that Peter would go against his commission to the Jews but that Paul lied and actually went into the church in Rome after Paul established it and “built upon another man’s foundation”?

80 posted on 06/13/2013 1:58:24 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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