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To: BlueDragon
Playing the games your pal Alynsky taught you doesn't convince folks of things the way people who play that game think it does. No amount of Gnostic special knowledge anyone tries to inject into an insignificant even makes it significant and that claim of something being deeply significant is a lie.

It's always interesting to see people who claim to be Christian play the same little propaganda games and snarky remark games the fascist democrat media play. It shows that while such folks may not be on the same side as the fascists politically, they're definitely on the same side as the fascist democrats spiritually.

Which also explains how Nancy Pelosi says she determines what she thinks is right exactly the same why the anti-Catholic crew say they decide what's right. The only difference is that there's some small chance that Nancy doesn't use a Bible that has a large part of the Old Testament missing.

69 posted on 06/15/2013 7:28:22 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

Oh for crying out loud. Give it up. The pope most likely did kiss a Koran.

Can you prove different? The evidence is strongly in favor that it did indeed occur. Without presenting compelling evidence to the contrary, you've got less than that with which you began. Insulting me isn't helping.

I did include some indication that I personally didn't regard the Koran-kiss as something oogity-boogity bad big deal.
Like F. Joe wrote about it, there may have been some general, non-specific peace-making sentiments as the more important part of the overall setting and proceedings. It was just a fairly routine visitor's reception, which I do not myself care to criticize, nor in any real way did.

If people, by which I mean possible critics of Catholicism, or Islamics, or anybody including Catholic faithful who are possibly much disturbed by the mere thought of that pope having puckered up towards the gift of a book, then misread or read in-between the lines stuff that may or may not properly belong--- well, whatever blows their skirts. Big whoopee-dee-do.

Meanwhile, the statements in your own posting I highlighted concerning it, I found to be like a gizmo; that upon delivery from a gizmo factory, was defective upon receipt of delivery. Said item was initially shipped free of charge, with payment for item due only at some later date also. I did pick up on indication that in the view of the branch manager of this particular gizmo factory, my home address was on the "wrong side" of town, even as I do notice scattered around my neighborhood more than a few empty boxes from the same general Co. So go figure.

Writing a note to said gizmo factory explaining the defects found in the gizmo, along with some testimonial from others attesting to the same "defect", whose own home addresses were NOT on the "wrong side of town", carefully packing the gizmo as to not "damage" it beyond manufacturer defect, off to the post office I went, waited in line, applied proper postage and off the gizmo went, back to point of origin.

Imagine my surprise when short time later I received note from the branch manager in reply to my own having shipped the item back (at some cost of time and effort to myself) with no mention at all of the gizmo item, or acknowledgement of it's defect.

Some manufacturers take pains to be polite to the general public, come what may. If anyone can alert them to potential problems in their own product line, most (if they are experienced operators) do try to pay attention, and often even send thanks in recognition of that customer having provided some beta-testing like, moderately detailed feedback as to a specific sample from among the various wares they offered, the gizmo receiving this benefit of just how and why the product be defective at little to no actual cost to themselves. Big outfits spend serious coin in "market research" as part of product development.

In regards to some smaller businesses we have had dealing with,
how many times have we all at some time or another been asked "how did you hear of our company?"
Well, that's a test of advertising. Is it working? Which method isn't? Which is bringing the right sort of customer, and which is presenting the Company in a positive light? Is there anything that could stand changing, or improve the product, or possibly remove some gizmos from production entirely, being as the return on effort for those particular small items wasn't netting positive result to the Co.?

In this allegorical tale, not only was there no acknowledgement of the problem, but I was effectively told I lived on the wrong aide of town, and that was the problem.

Now I will confess to having sent follow-up reply to the note from the manager which rather rudely implied it was all my fault from the beginning, indicating that I did still believe the gizmo item itself to be a serious loser, but without negative mention of the company itself, or any of it's other product line. Though composed in a way to give a slight tweak to the manager for reason of my own being needlessly insulted. I confess all.

Being as in this allegory the fuller line of gizmo's themselves be to a large extent advertising materials and/or the makings of informational promotional distribution exchange, and I myself be in (decidedly small-time) advertising/circular/flyer distribution myself, and being as this isn't my first time around the block so to speak, there was one further issue come to mind.

We all, the whole dang town, uses the same printing presses, which run pretty well automated, day and night. Write up a flyer, "send" it into the magic machine, and presto. One copy. Free(Republic) access open generally to all whom share some similarity in mindset...and whom will conduct themselves with a modicum of decency as towards other flyer producers when meeting at the print house. The print house itself needed regular moderate maintenance, and a very real-world electricity bill of some not insignificant amount but generally covered by donations from those whom use the facilities, both reading flyers posted on the moveable bulletin boards, and tacking up notes thereon themselves.

Herein lay a slight difficulty. Though I do further confess my own flyers tending towards being of some length in comparison to many other shorter notes (whom can be more effective in sweet simplicity) and these long streamers though not the only Lo-oong ones tacked up, my own painstaking handwritten ones can along with those of more the duplicate of duplicate sort, irritate those whom support the printing presses with their own noT-tax deductible charitable donations.

Yet too, those whom tack up personal "hate mail" rather induce others to do the same, and or lead to more streamers from guys like me. All of which impedes what could be a smoother flow...

Leaving that allegory behind, I'd like to ask you one question;
Attending a three-ring circus, with lots of action going on all around, have you ever wondered as have I, that if a guy could get close enough to one of the clowns to make a grab at one of those big 'ol red noses, and was able to give it a quick but firm squeeze, would the nose go "honk"?

71 posted on 06/15/2013 10:48:58 PM PDT by BlueDragon (hold on sec...just gittin me swimmin trunks...)
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