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To: Salvation
Don't bother, Salvation. People who still post that picture and the lie about the book being a Koran already know it's not a Koran and don't want the Truth to mess up their little games.

People in little Gnostic cliques prefer lies to the Truth so they repeat lies.

55 posted on 06/13/2013 9:23:30 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
Truth huh? It was very likely that it was a koran. There was an article from Zenit with a Christian witness saying so. All evidence against it having happened is monday morning quarterbacking grade commentary, or apologetic excuse making distraction.

I could be wrong about this --- but that still remains to be seen. Produce the evidence. Opinions, no matter how widely repeated, if not coming straight from sources involved there at the time prove next to nothing, rendering such as;

land right back nearer the doorsteps of those who casually fling that sort of talk around, than the porch they were a-aiming for. Where is this "secret knowledge" that book was in actual fact;

when we know korans are often times green too, and as I said, there was published commentary, from reliable source, containing first person witness.

Not that I believe it meant that Pope being endorsing Islam unreservedly, but rather as many have pointed out, likely did so as sign of respect for the giver (from a group of guests invited from the Middle East). That pope too was known as quite a kisser. He'd kiss the ground after arrival on an airplane or jet flight, and it wasn't over having a rough trip along the way. He'd kiss babies. He'd kiss other presents. Some people would kiss his ring. KIssy kissy, lot's of kissy.

Read into it whatever blows your skirts up. Meanwhile, stuff like this;

still get's us nowhere fast. If it is desired there be a bit less mind reading, attributing of motive, insult aimed in broad brush strokes, then tighten up, be more disciplined, knock that sort of thing [behavior] off regardless if all others don't, and carefully consider that there are standards of proof & evidence that have not yet been met concerning that picture.

There are possibly a few FR Roman Catholic who agree it was a Koran. I know of one. Perhaps he has changed his mind, I wouldn't know. But it's likely quite safe to assume that person did not think so (koran kiss) at the time, just because he was "knew it wasn't a Koran" but was lying so that he could go about "playing little games" concerning it.

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Scroll down at that last above link to see F.Joe holding the line as late as some time late August 2010, or even bit later.

a couple of more links for Catholic of the "ok we accept a Koran got kissed" crowd, possibly available at this FR reply/comment though I've not investigated for while an so cannot assure link validity, or validity of citations presented on FR in that comment.

Others here whom believe that it was indeed a Koran can and will reasonably consider that to be so, unless or until there was some retraction or clarification coming from the Vatican that it not be so. Since JP II is now fairly long since deceased, I seriously doubt anything will be forthcoming from that source concerning the matter. I further suggest that attributing motives and impugning the character of many here be refrained from in regards to this matter.

What is a good for the goose, is good for the gander. Now if you'll excuse me for a while...I think I'll find myself a big 'ol bowl of gravy, and have myself a swim.

65 posted on 06/15/2013 5:31:11 PM PDT by BlueDragon (how do you like me now?)
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