Posted on 06/01/2013 9:46:17 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
Got a verse on that?
Sorry, these hands never molested little boys. They are not equally defiled.
Nor are they being help up as being holy, which is those priests bearing false witness of themselves.
I know, you have made it clear many times that you alone, and not Mary, have not fallen short. Thank God you are not like that Tax Collector.
Amen! The Spirit, and only the Spirit, gives life. The Eucharist is not the same thing as the Lord’s Supper. It is contrary to Scripture and utter blasphemy.
“That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” (John 3:6)
“By this will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.” (Hebrews 10:10)
“Blasphemy of Roman Catholic Hero John Henry Newman’s Eucharistic Worship of Bread Cakes and Wafers”
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=plpp&v=P-23dgg1Xi8
Post numbers please......
True, but to be completely honest, there are also Protestant ministers — yes, even conservative ones — who have practiced immorality and continue in their pulpits.
No one has a monopoly on sin. Sort of like “racism,” it comes in many flavors!
...It’s sadder that people refuse to obey Christ’s instruction.
“John 6:28-30 28 Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.” “
You seem to want to pick and choose Christ’s instruction as YOU see fit.
“Take this and eat. This is my body...” ...Jesus Christ
We are all Christians only in a Western culture sense of that term, but since we have a different gospel, we’re not all Christians in the Bible sense of that term. In fact, many who profess the Christian gospel remain lost. False profession has always been an issue, but it has become an epidemic in our day. It stems largely from watered-down preaching and a de-emphasis on Bible doctrine. Salvation does not come from walking aisles or repeating prayers. It doesn’t come from human decisions or church membership. The baptismal waters cannot save and neither can the wine and communion wafer.
Salvation comes as the result of a supernatural work in the heart of a sinner. Christ called that supernatural act of the Spirit being “born again.”(John 3:1-8) Salvation comes not from the human will, from beginning to end it is an act of grace by a Holy God.
“So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.” Romans 9:16
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)
If you want Jesus in you, you don't eat Him, you believe in Him.
John 14:23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.
Ephesians 3:14-19 14 For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, 15 from whom every family in heaven and on earth is named, 16 that according to the riches of his glory he may grant you to be strengthened with power through his Spirit in your inner being, 17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith—that you, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 may have strength to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, 19 and to know the love of Christ that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.
Romans 8:9-11 9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. 10 But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.
“The words He spoke are spirit and life.”
True.
“If you want Jesus in you, you don’t eat Him, you believe in Him.”
You do as Jesus instructs you to do, especially things which are hard to accept.
You must be born again. Awesome testimony! I too escaped the Church of Rome.
“Scripture tells us that your hands are equally defiled. Why do you insist on throwing the stone.”
A pedophile priest who previously might have been fondling some little boy, who is now holding what he claims to be the Body of Christ in his hand, and distributing it directly into the mouth of the faithful, just seems awfully disturbing, that’s all.
Disturbing?
You’re being far too kind.
It’s disgusting, vile, evil, and reprehensible.
There has to be a tremendous amount of denial going on the the mind of a Catholic to even begin to dismiss it or excuse it.
God had some pretty high standards for the lifestyles and behavior of His priests under the Law and He took care of them pretty decisively when they disobeyed.
To treat such reprehensible sin so lightly demonstrates the depth of brainwashing that Catholics have endured.
“Disturbing?
You’re being far too kind.
It’s disgusting, vile, evil, and reprehensible.
There has to be a tremendous amount of denial going on the the mind of a Catholic to even begin to dismiss it or excuse it.”
You are correct. Disturbing is too soft a word for the horrific evil of it all. I apologize for using it.
No apology is necessary although you’re certainly forgiven.
Neither do we. We believe the words of Jesus in John 6. Do you?
See my post, which is either number 15 or 16.
When a person isn’t given the Grace to see the full Truth, they usually don’t realize it. However, when a person is given the opportunity to see it through Grace and they fail to use rational thought and open their mind to the light, it is sad.
Worse, are those who see glimmers of the Truth and shut themselves off to the Fullness of Christ, out of obstinacy and pride.
Sure signs of this obstinacy and pride are 1) repeatedly telling the same faulty myths about Christ’s Church and 2)
attacking sinners within His Church as if this represents the Church.
Prayers out for all to see True Light.
Here’s some rational thought.
Either the bread and wine are literally turned into the actual flesh and blood of Jesus. Or they are not and they are a symbolic representation of the spiritual reality.
Now, throughout Scripture God forbids the eating of blood. The life is in the blood. It is for atonement. It was NEVER eaten as part of the sacrifice but rather poured out. That command to not eat blood was reiterated by the Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15.
So the situation is this......
Either the interpretation of John 6 is literal, which violates and contradicts the weight of Scripture which preceded it thousands or years before.
Or the interpretation is that the eating and drinking is symbolic, which does not contradict any commands of God given in Scripture.
Jesus came to fulfill the Law, not violate it.
He could not have partook of the cup Himself if it was blood, as it would have made Him unclean by sinning and He could not have commanded the disciples to do something which would break the Law, thus making them unclean and unable to celebrate the Passover.
Jesus blood was poured out. It’s gone.
Nor is there any record of the whole ceremony and incantation which the priests utter which is allegedly supposed to change the host and wine into the literal body and blood of Jesus.
The system of sacrifices is over with the death of Jesus. They never saved anyone anyway. All they did was foreshadow the sacrifice of Christ on the cross.
No one has given you authority to interpret scripture. Your fanciful and tendentious comments are mere private speculations, impertinent and unfounded.
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