Posted on 06/01/2013 9:46:17 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
More than 7000 pages!! Now that must have been a rough thread.
7000+ posts I mean, not pages. Oops.
Nah. SOS.
There was the “Never Ending Thread.” Broke the database. About a decade ago I think.
It’s really all been done and said - several times over - on FR.
Ten years? We know catholics have been dumbed down - could be, by now, God gave some over to a depraved mind.
No, it doesn’t.
Christ dwells in our hearts through faith.
It’s really sad that some people think that they have to go somewhere to meet Him and that they have to eat Him to have Him in them.
It gets old eventually.
I’ve seen them come and go. Very few remain, and those not so much active, mostly responding occasionally to newcomers - until they too are pretty much done.
It’s not like this is new ground.
Perhaps longer than ten years ago. Some may remember. I believe it was well over 20,000 posts.
God's Word has no beginning and no end. He holds the universe together by His Word. God's Word IS The Final Authority.
It’s sadder that people refuse to obey Christ’s instruction.
Amen
John 6:28-30 28 Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”
So much for the actual teaching of Christ Himself. What did He know anyway.
"Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink His blood, you shall not have life in you. He that eateth My flesh, and drinketh My blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day. For My flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in Me, and I in him. As the living Father hath sent Me, and I live by the Father; so he that eateth Me, the same also shall live by Me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead. He that eateth this bread, shall live for ever." John 6:54-59
You've got lots of company.
"After this many of His disciples went back; and walked no more with Him." John 6:67
“You’ve got lots of company.”
Considering they took Christ’s message the same way you did, I’d have to say that you’re the one with the company (though you’re desensitized).
Joh 6:27-29 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. (28) Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? (29) Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
Presumably, when Christ says “labour... for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life,” it refers literally to the Eucharist. But then the Jews ask him: “What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?” in response to this statement, instead of answering “Get a Priest to feed you bits of my body!”, he replies “believe on him whom he hath sent.”
Augustine favors this view, commenting on the same lines of scripture:
“They said therefore unto Him, What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?” For He had said to them, “Labor not for the meat which perisheth, but for that which endureth unto eternal life.” “What shall we do?” they ask; by observing what, shall we be able to fulfill this precept? “Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on Him whom He has sent.” This is then to eat the meat, not that which perisheth, but that which endureth unto eternal life. To what purpose dost thou make ready teeth and stomach? Believe, and thou hast eaten already.” NPNF1: Vol. VII, Tractates on John, Tractate 25.
In response to the Jews walking away, since they took him literally (the Roman Catholic view), Christ replies, as if to explain:
Joh 6:61-63 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you? (62) What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? (63) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Christ declares that His body is returning to “where He was before.” This He does to draw them from the carnal sense, and to think spiritually. And continues, “the spirit... quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing.” Christ points them back to the faith He commanded previously in verse 29, and does not encourage them to take a bite out of Him right then and there.
What a distortion of words. Amazing.
I know! The RCC is filled with such distortions.
Your all lawyered up. I am amazed how you state what early church fathers are saying in general to be used like a lawyer uses words. Amazing.
“Your all lawyered up. I am amazed how you state what early church fathers are saying in general to be used like a lawyer uses words. Amazing.”
Instead of blandly attacking and accusing me, you should just demonstrate how I am wrong. Please don’t spam me with insults, otherwise.
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