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To: JCBreckenridge; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; smvoice; Greetings_Puny_Humans; ..
So is your position that that unless one has the sanction of those who are the instrument and steward of Scripture and Divine revelation, having historical descent, then they have no authority?

Absolutely. We also teach that the Apostles were granted this authority by Christ.

Anyone else want to nuke the church?

Seeing as the church began in dissent from those who were the stewards of Holy Writ and the official teachers of it, and those who sat in the seat of Moses (Rm. 3:2; 9:4; Mt. 23:2) having historical descent and being the inheritor of the promises of God. (Rm. 3:2; 9:4; Lv. 10:11; Dt. 4:31; 17:8-13; Num. 23:19,23; Is. 41:10, Ps. 89:33,34; Mal. 3:6)

And who followed a itinerant Preacher, who reproved them by Scripture for teaching as doctrines mere tradition of the elders, (Mk. 7:3-16) and established His claims upon Scriptural substantiation, in text and in power, as did the apostles and early church. (Mt. 22:23-45; Lk. 24:27,44; Jn. 5:36,39; Acts 2:14-35; 4:33; 5:12; 15:6-21;17:2,11; 18:28; 28:23; Rm. 15:19; 2Cor. 12:12, etc.)

Under the Roman model souls would be told to reject this itinerant Preacher as a renegade, as in response to their demand, "By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority to do these things?," He invoked the baptism of a holy man in the desert eating insects, who also did not have the sanction of the magisterium.

But like Rome, they presumed a level of assured veracity and authority above what is written., (cf. 1Cor. 4:6)

But as Rome has infallibly declared she is and will be perpetually infallible whenever she speaks in accordance with her infallibly defined (scope and subject-based) formula, this renders her declaration that she is infallible, to be infallible, as well as all else she accordingly declares.

And wherein is your full assurance.

692 posted on 06/01/2013 11:10:18 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

So your course is that the NT isn’t reliable and that we shouldn’t be using it.

Fair enough.

I can’t argue with someone who believes that only the OT is inspired. All I can argue is that you’re not a Christian.


733 posted on 06/01/2013 2:13:12 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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