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To: Alex Murphy
"In the same way, a communion wafer isn't wine."

I (again) recommend that you investigate the difference between substance and property.

"Taken from the intact Virgin, the Flesh of Jesus is of the maternal flesh of Mary, the Blood of Jesus is of the maternal blood of Mary. Therefore, it will never be possible to separate Jesus from Mary." - St. Thomas Aquinas

1,554 posted on 06/10/2013 2:59:22 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law; Alex Murphy
I (again) recommend that you investigate the difference between substance and property.


1,590 posted on 06/10/2013 4:38:12 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Natural Law
"Taken from the intact Virgin, the Flesh of Jesus is of the maternal flesh of Mary, the Blood of Jesus is of the maternal blood of Mary. Therefore, it will never be possible to separate Jesus from Mary." - St. Thomas Aquinas

Therefore, if Jesus = God, then Mary = God.

1,591 posted on 06/10/2013 4:39:20 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Natural Law; Alex Murphy
"Taken from the intact Virgin, the Flesh of Jesus is of the maternal flesh of Mary, the Blood of Jesus is of the maternal blood of Mary. Therefore, it will never be possible to separate Jesus from Mary." - St. Thomas Aquinas

St. Thomas was pontificating about a biological condition that was not known very well in his day. They thought that the fetus was a tiny little person "seed" enclosed in sperm that got planted in the woman's womb and grew from there. They looked at the mother as only being the incubator for the baby. Because Jesus had no human father by whom the "seed" of him was planted, guys like Thomas came up with all kinds of explanations for what happened including that all that Jesus had in his human body came solely from his mother. Theologians in the thirteenth century were NOT biologists, obviously.

1,681 posted on 06/10/2013 10:09:43 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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