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To: MarkBsnr; CynicalBear
Are you kidding. Look at your own posts. How many times have you posted that you are saved and that exactly nobody and nothing can stop your own personal salvation. I have no idea of what you truly believe, so I can only go on your actual postings.

That is not saying that I therefore have a license to sin.

Being sure of one's salvation because it is sealed by the Holy Spirit, is not the same as those people who treat it as a get out of hell free card.

Did you not read the verses I posted?

Romans 6:1-2 What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?

Romans 6:12-16 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. 13 Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness. 14 For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.

15 What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! 16 Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?

Being sure of one's salvation is not a license to sin and anyone who thinks so is most probably not saved.

When you are saved and have had a change of heart and realize what you have been saved from, you don't want to sin.You want to live a pure and holy life that would bring honor and glory to God for the work He has done in you out of gratitude for what He has done in you.

Do we sin? Sure. Everyone does. We still have this body of flesh that is weak. There's that conflict in us between the old and new nature (ala Romans 7) but we're still saved and the conflict, much as we hate it, is a good sign because someone who is not saved does not have that conflict in them.

God looks on the heart, not the outward appearance. He knows our frame and remembers that we are dust.

He's a loving heavenly Father who is loving and gracious and merciful when we slip up, willing to forgive us and not condemn us for not being perfect.

No one with any kind of inkling of that is going to sin without reservation and flaunt it and trample the blood of Jesus underfoot.

1,081 posted on 06/03/2013 8:08:57 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

I’m convinced that anyone who makes the statement that once saved always saved indicates that someone believes they can sin without impunity has no idea what salvation entails.


1,143 posted on 06/04/2013 2:48:00 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: metmom
That is not saying that I therefore have a license to sin. Being sure of one's salvation because it is sealed by the Holy Spirit, is not the same as those people who treat it as a get out of hell free card.

That is the attitude and assumption (heh) of the OSAS crowd. Look at the posts and see what the development of the 'I cannot be denied salvation' presentation gives us.

1,165 posted on 06/04/2013 4:18:23 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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