Posted on 05/31/2013 2:44:05 PM PDT by NYer
Do our Catholic children and most adults know what these images teach?
All of us know one of the elephants in the room of the Catholic Church. Our religious education programs are not handing on the essence of our Catholic Faith, our parents are befuddled about their role in handing on the faith and the materials we use are vapid or if good do not make an impression on young minds. We are afraid of asking for memorization and thus most don't remember anything they've learned about God and Church other than some niceties and feel good emotions.
I teach each class of our grades 1-6 (we don't have 7th or 8th) each Thursday, rotating classes from week to week. For the last two years I have used Baltimore Catechism #1 as my text book. It is wonderful to use with children and it is so simple yet has so much content. If Catholics, all Catholics, simply studied Baltimore Catechism #1, we would have very knowledgeable Catholics.
These past two years I've used Baltimore Catechism #2 with our adult religious program which we call Coffee and Conversation following our 9:30 AM Sunday Mass, which coincides with our CCD program which we call PREP (Parish Religious Education Program).
This #2 book has more content and is for middle school, but upper elementary school children must have been more capable of more serious content back when this book was formulated and used through the mid 1960's because it is a great book to use with adults and not childish at all. We all use this same book as a supplemental book for the RCIA because it is so clear, nobly simple and chocked full of content!
Yes, there are some adjustments that need to be made to some chapters, but not that many, in light of Vatican II and the new emphasis we have on certain aspects of Church that are not present in the Baltimore Catechism. But these are really minor.
What is more important though is that when the Baltimore Catechism was used through the mid 1960's it was basically the only book that was used for children in elementary and junior high school. It was used across the board in the USA thus uniting all Catholics in learning the same content. There was not, in other words, a cottage industry of competing publishing houses selling new books and different content each year.
The same thing has occurred with liturgical music, a cottage industry of big bucks has developed around the sale of new hymnals, missalettes and new music put on the open market for parishes to purchase. It is a money making scheme.
Why do our bishop allow this to happen in both liturgical music and parish catechesis? The business of selling stuff to parishes and making mega bucks off of it is a scandal that has not be addressed.
In the meantime, our liturgies suffer and become fragmented because every parish uses a different resource for liturgical music and the same is true of religious formation, everyone uses something different of differing quality or no quality at all.
Isn't it time to wake up and move forward with tried and true practices that were tossed out in favor of a consumerist's approach to our faith that has weakened our liturgies, our parishes and our individual Catholics?
And that is why I can say with absolute confidence that protestants, especially protestant homeschoolers, are intellectually dishonest.
Did Calvin get reincarnated as Terry Pratchett?
“And that is why I can say with absolute confidence that protestants, especially protestant homeschoolers, are intellectually dishonest.”
That was an ugly and inaccurate statement.
Here's one place:
For it was not to angels that God subjected the world to come, of which we are speaking. It has been testified somewhere,
“What is man that thou art mindful of him, or the son of man, that thou carest for him? Thou didst make him for a little while lower than the angels, thou hast crowned him with glory and honor, putting everything in subjection under his feet.”
Now in putting everything in subjection to him, he left nothing outside his control. As it is, we do not yet see everything in subjection to him. But we see Jesus, who for a little while was made lower than the angels, crowned with glory and honor because of the suffering of death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for every one.
For it was fitting that he, for whom and by whom all things exist, in bringing many sons to glory, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through suffering. For he who sanctifies and those who are sanctified have all one origin. That is why he is not ashamed to call them brethren, saying,
“I will proclaim thy name to my brethren, in the midst of the congregation I will praise thee.”
And again,
“I will put my trust in him.”
And again,
“Here am I, and the children God has given me.”
Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same nature, that through death he might destroy him who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and deliver all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong bondage. For surely it is not with angels that he is concerned but with the descendants of Abraham. Therefore he had to be made like his brethren in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make expiation for the sins of the people. For because he himself has suffered and been tempted, he is able to help those who are tempted. (Hebrews 2:5-18)
Somehow, claiming to be a former Catholics gains some street cred in some circles. Perhaps we could find a few of their names on a parish record somewhere, but aside from some technicality they were never actually Catholic.
What we do know is that many who claim that they left the Church over doctrinal differences know exceedingly little about Church doctrine.
Debating the pagan cult beliefs of the RCC is a rather futile waste of time anyway.
And many left who know a great deal about RC doctrine.
BTW Are you into mind reading now to know what Protestants know? Do you have any evidence of some protestant “knowing they are wrong” or are you clairvoyant?
Not necessarily, when the scripture is proclaimed...
Isaiah 55:11
so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth;
it shall not return to me empty,
but it shall accomplish that which I purpose,
and shall succeed in the thing for which I sent it.
Maybe so, but none of them have shown up on FR.
Maybe a few have. Most know enough.
In reality all we need to know is Faith alone or Faith and works.
It is dead spot on.
Metmom made the statement upthread in post #451What they fail to consider is that support for contraception is a symptom of a breakdown of faith
I replied in #491 Began by the COE at the Lambeth conference in 1929 and EVERY single protestant faith followed suit shortly there after. How many Protestant churches support Gay marriages?
Her snarky reply in #510 Documentation please. From a real source.
In post #640 I supplied a review of that conference from an attendee: Charles Gore, D.D., D.C.L., LL. D. Bishop of Oxford. Here is a link to his entire statement: http://anglicanhistory.org/gore/contra1930.html
He clearly states his reservations about Resolution 15, which permits members of the CoE to use artificial contraception.
I had to ask her twice to respond to the documentation that she requested. Her brilliantly conceived response was: FOTFLOL!!!!!!!!
How would you describe her response?
Those quotes don’t say anything about Jesus being born to a sinful human.
Fixed it for you.
Name something that Protestants do that originated in paganism.
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