WHY ARE OUR CATHOLIC LAITY SO ILLITERATE WHEN IT COMES TO THE CATHOLIC FAITH

Southern Orders ^ | May 31, 2013 | Fr. Allan J. McDonald

[CynicalBear]

>>He then definitively spoke of how to implement St. Peter's proclamation.<<

Yeah, that’s why he said ”my sentence is”. We always understand when someone says my sentence is that it was really someone else who decided and the head guy. Like when a judge says my sentence is it’s really not he that is in charge but is simply declaring someone else’s decision because………………………….Oh good grief! Do Catholics really believe what they say?

[CynicalBear]

So you don’t believe that Jesus was fully human?

[Elsie]

You miss the parallelism there Adam -> Christ. Which is also why you don’t even quote the remainder of that passage.

I missed nothing that was pertainent to the subject being discussed; namely that sin did NOT come thru a man, but a woman.

[Elsie]

So why then do you attack the Catholic church for claiming she possesses something that you do not?

Uh...

...because there is no EVIDENCE to back up the CLAIM?

[Elsie]

Should we rip 1 Corinthians 12 out of our Bibles now too?

"What must we do..."

[Elsie]

The Holy Belt, according to the tradition, was made by the Blessed Virgin Mary herself with camel hair.

Oh; I see...

[Elsie]

Whatever God says that it is.

So...

...you don't know.

[Elsie]

Look at the posts and see what the development of the 'I cannot be denied salvation' presentation gives us.

"What MUST we do..."

[Elsie]

[Natural Law]

"So you don’t believe that Jesus was fully human?"

I believe fully in the Hypostatic union.

[Elsie]

JCB claimed that something was missing by NOT posting the rest of a passage earlier.

Here is some MORE of Acts, chapter 15, that you did not post:

ACTS 15:22-31

The Council’s Letter to Gentile Believers

 ²² Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers. ²³ With them they sent the following letter:

   The apostles and elders, your brothers,

   To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:

   Greetings.

 ²⁴ We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. ²⁵ So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— ²⁶ men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. ²⁷ Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. ²⁸ It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: ²⁹ You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

   Farewell.

 ³⁰ So the men were sent off and went down to Antioch, where they gathered the church together and delivered the letter. ³¹ The people read it and were glad for its encouraging message.

[JCBreckenridge]

I find the entire verse is pertinent to understanding it correctly.

[JCBreckenridge]

I asked you a question.

Is Jesus God?

[JCBreckenridge]

You don’t attach authority to apostolicity.

So why should it matter to you if the Catholic church is the church of the Apostles since you belong to a church that makes no such claim?

Clearly - whether a Church is or is not the Church of the Apostles is unimportant as to whether that Church has the presence of the Holy Spirit.

[Elsie]

[JCBreckenridge]

Which raises the question as to why you use the holy book written by them. Surely if one believes them to be corrupted by paganism, such corruption would also taint what they wrote.

[Elsie]

You guys having fun with the Rock, Paper, Scissors game?

[Elsie]

I find the entire verse is pertinent to understanding it correctly the RCC way.

[JCBreckenridge]

“What difference does it make”

Everything.

You base your case on ‘the scriptures’, and yet cannot determine what was contained within ‘the scriptures’.

Asking the question, “what was written” raises the very next question - what exactly was written down that he’s referring to.

[Elsie]

So why should it matter to you if the Catholic church is the church of the Apostles since you belong to a church that makes no such claim?

It should matter to YOU that your church makes a claim that has no evidence for.