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To: ravenwolf
I think most of the confusion here comes from the misunderstanding of the word "pray." Its earlier, legitimate meaning, still used by the Church, is to "implore" or ask." Shakespeare uses it this way all the time ("I pray you, do not fall in love with me") and the U.S. judges and lawyers still use it this way ("Therefore the petitioner now prays this honorable Court...")

In this sense, you "pray" to another person every time you ask the waitress for a cup of coffee. Though where in the Bible does it say you can pray to waitresses?

49 posted on 05/26/2013 9:54:14 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my all.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I think most of the confusion here comes from the misunderstanding of the word “pray


You make a good point, praying is asking but we can see what Jesus says about that.

Mat 6
5
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6
But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

So if we want a cup of coffee a waitress is the one to ask, but God is the only one who can give us eternal life.

1 Tim ch 2
5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;


71 posted on 05/26/2013 2:10:11 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I think most of the confusion here comes from the misunderstanding of the word "pray." Its earlier, legitimate meaning, still used by the Church, is to "implore" or ask." Shakespeare uses it this way all the time ("I pray you, do not fall in love with me") and the U.S. judges and lawyers still use it this way ("Therefore the petitioner now prays this honorable Court...")

In this sense, you "pray" to another person every time you ask the waitress for a cup of coffee. Though where in the Bible does it say you can pray to waitresses?

Naw, that's misleading...The only time in the scriptures when pray means to implore or ask is when it is combined with the word you, or thee...The single word pray in the bible means to worship...

77 posted on 05/26/2013 2:36:43 PM PDT by Iscool
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