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To: Natural Law

“No, that is what you were talking about. I was referring to Saints being able to hear our requests for intercession (prayers) and to pray for us to God.”


Which, by definition, would be back to what you just said I was talking about:

“We’re talking about whether Christians after death have the divine qualities of omnipresence and omniscience, and take up the role of God in hearing and answering prayer.”

“Spiritual beings are not constrained by the physical world. “


Created beings, whether spiritual or not, are constrained with being in one location at a time. Hence why the Angel was held up by the infernal forces for some time before he was able to meet with Daniel:

Dan 10:12-13 Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words. (13) But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

Not even angels are omnipresent or omniscient, but must move from one location to another. Only God is “multipresent,” not any created being. Only God is able to comprehend and know everything at once, not man. Only God is able to absorb all information in the world, hear the thoughts of men, understand their languages, and be there with them every point in their life. A created being, certainly, cannot.


188 posted on 05/28/2013 4:35:47 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
"Created beings, whether spiritual or not, are constrained with being in one location at a time."

LOL. Spirits are no more constrained by space and time than are your thoughts.

My thoughts can simultaneously be on the surface of the moon and the bottom of the ocean, at the moment of my daughters birth and at the parting of the Red Sea same time. How much more free will our souls be which will always be in the presence of God, who himself is omnipresent.

Peace be to you

189 posted on 05/28/2013 4:47:59 PM PDT by Natural Law (Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, dona nobis pacem.)
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