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To: Iscool
Here is what the Orthodox Church says about the Pope's comments and the difference between redemption and salvation. I found it on another site and thought you might find it interesting:

http://orthodoxyandheterodoxy.org/2013/05/23/did-pope-francis-say-everyone-will-be-saved-by-doing-good/

29 posted on 05/23/2013 1:49:21 PM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv
Here is what the Orthodox Church says about the Pope's comments and the difference between redemption and salvation. I found it on another site and thought you might find it interesting:

Well, first, this is not universalism. It might appear to be so if you don’t know that there is a difference in traditional Christian theology between being saved and being redeemed. The redemption that Christ accomplished through the incarnation, cross and resurrection was for all of human nature, and so it is quite correct to say “The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ.” Redemption is something that happens for human nature, which is why all will be resurrected in the end and why all are capable of doing good.

While Jesus Christ is the Redemption for all of mankind, ONLY those who trust in Christ will be redeemed...So it is NOT correct to say that Christ redeemed all of us...

What the writer fails to tell you is that while 'all' will be resurrected in the end, many (most) will be resurrected to the Judgment and then cast into outer darkness...And THOSE who are have not nor will they be redeemed...

This orthodox writer is just plain wrong if he is trying to tell someone what the scriptures say about the topic...

Someone may be redeemed and not be saved. Someone may be redeemed and not do good. Someone may also be redeemed, do good and yet not be saved.

This is completely unbiblical...None of it is true...Your duo religion has twisted the meaning of redemption with justification...

Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Justification = we
Redemption = is in Christ Jesus...

Jesus is the Redemption that allows us to be justified...To call us redeemed distorts the bible out of any sense of truth...

37 posted on 05/24/2013 8:26:26 AM PDT by Iscool
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