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To: boatbums
everyone BUT Roman Catholics are bad...blah, blah, blah

Now, the Orthodox are for example, very good because theirs is an authentic Church, and they preserved most of the Holy Relics from destruction. Also, they never allowed the Protestant error in their midst. The reason Protestant thinkers can be dismissed summarily is because they have no historical continuity with the Early Church and in fact oppose most ancient practices, including this one.

Didn't their own words make it clear that they did not worship anyone but Christ?

A good example why talking to a Protestant is waste of time. No one worships relics. I don't. The students of St. Polycarp didn't. If you want to be taken seriously, understand the topic you are trying to opine about.

There sure were a lot of martyrs Paul could have used as examples, but not one word from him

I already gave you St. John's quote. Veneration of saints is referenced approvingly by St. Paul (Hebrews 10:35-40, 11:1-2). Veneration of relics, specifically, no, albeit his relics were gathered and he did not object (Acts 19:12).

Gill's Exposition of the Whole Bible

Another charlatan explaining clear text with Protestant fables.

It wasn't even mentioned among Christians until several centuries AFTER the Apostles had all died off yet

I gave you St. Polycarp example. He was a student of Apostle John.

Mark 16:1, tells us what Mary Magdalene was doing there

Right, with the Myrrh-bearing women. But then she came alone, St. John tells us, to the tomb she already knew to be empty. Why?

THE nails that pierced Jesus, splinters from THE cross, THE shroud that covered Jesus' body in the tomb

These were discovered by Emperor Constantine and St. Helena, and preserved. It is the vandals of the Reformation in the West, and the Muslim vandals in the East that, through their looting, made the provenance hard to prove. Why do you defend these criminals? Shouldn't the mere behavior of Reformation scum be repugnant?

68 posted on 04/28/2013 11:15:58 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
Now, the Orthodox are for example, very good because theirs is an authentic Church, and they preserved most of the Holy Relics from destruction. Also, they never allowed the Protestant error in their midst. The reason Protestant thinkers can be dismissed summarily is because they have no historical continuity with the Early Church and in fact oppose most ancient practices, including this one.

The only snippet of your recent comment that is worth a reply, though barely - the rest being just more of the typical bigoted reactions common to the dark ages over which the Roman Catholic Church presided and supported.

Spitting out the word "Protestant" whenever ones religious persuasion is criticized and presuming it is adequate justification to disregard anything associated with the Reformation, shows a dismal lack of understanding or charity, possibly, even a Christian immaturity. Rather than insist the Reformers had "no historical continuity with the early church", the truth is that they were MORE in line with early church doctrines and attitudes than what the Roman church had become by the sixteenth century. If some Catholics refuse to acknowledge this fact and prefer the dream, or myth rather, that "their" church was the ONLY one Christ established and it remained infallible and untouched by human vice and depravity, then they pretty much will believe anything - up to and including that slivers of body parts from supposed "saints" carry special blessings from God. It's one thing to honor and remember the example of those who exhibited spiritual strength and grace in times of great testing and tribulation, but it's another to imagine some "relic" which might be associated with them obligates God to grant whatever request is conjured. Such action smacks of hero and idol worship not unsimilar to that the ancient heathens and pagans of Rome and Greece practiced. If God forbid the chosen people of Israel from adopting those rituals common to the worshipers of false gods and demons, how could He not also the chosen generation of holy people set apart by the grace of God in Jesus Christ?

You can ponder the answer to that or, if expected, summarily dismiss it as just more Protestant "error". I, on the other hand, will continue to respect and obey the word of God and follow the guidelines He chose to reveal.

70 posted on 04/28/2013 12:57:29 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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