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To: count-your-change
And Peter quoted David”s words about himself in Ps.16, applying it to the Christ but I don't think he meant David was Jesus.

And no one else thinks that Peter meant that either. Your facile dismissal here of the evidence of the Scriptures I posted in #543 is based on the bizarre assumption that because the Old Testament is used in a particular way in one place in the New Testament that it must be used that way everywhere in New Testament.

Psalm 16 is typological and prophetic. In Acts 2 Peter is referring to David as a prophet and that he foresaw the resurrection. (He was a prophet in the sense of forthtelling the word of God, or speaking forth revelation concerning the present and the future - David died without fulfilling the Psalm.)

Acts 2:31

English Standard Version (ESV)

31 he foresaw and spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that he was not abandoned to Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption.

I think we've established well enough that the Father is not the Son and really don't need to respond to every blog that can be found and a cut and paste done on it.

And no one here says the Father is the Son either. Your straw man is your own error of dividing the Essence and confusing the Persons. As far as a cut and paste job, I have known for over 35 years the Scriptures I posted in #543 , before I had ever heard of the internet. I am sorry that for ease of formatting you stumble.

I have yet to meet a cultist who denies the Deity of Christ who is even aware of the correspondence of these Scriptures, much less has been able to give any sort of coherent response at all to their force. You are no exception as is plainly evident by your evasive and non-responsive reply. It is no surprise. After all, how can one who claims to believe the New Testament rebut the New Testament's explicit interpretation of the Old Testament?

If you don't mind, I will continue to accept the New Testament's interpretation of these Old Testament passages, rather than your interpretation of them:

Isaiah 44:6 quoted in Revelation 22:13 (1:17; 2:10)
Isaiah 6:1-5,10 quoted in John 12:36-43
Psalm 102 quoted in Hebrews 1:10-12
Isaiah 8:13-15 quoted in 1 Peter 2:8
Joel 2:32 quoted in Acts 2:16-21 & Romans 10:13
Isaiah 45:21-23 quoted in Philippians 2:10,11

Every one of which (more could be listed) take an Old Testament passage about Jehovah and applies it to Jesus.

39 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, 40 yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life.

If you have the wrong Jesus you will not have eternal life.

Cordially,

548 posted on 04/23/2013 6:40:44 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Diamond
Paul's quotations of OT Scriptures and his application of of them to the Christ does not equate Jehovah, the Father with Jesus, the Son.

That Peter and Paul, both Jews would write that the Father Jehovah or Yahweh of OT was Jesus the Son of NT is beyond absurd.

Earlier you wrote, (whether your words or the blog authors?):

“Can it be proved that the Father is “Jehovah” from Old Testament passages which are quoted in the New Testament to refer to the Father?
Yes? In the very same way it can be proved that Jesus is “Jehovah” from Old Testament passages which are quoted in the New Testament to refer to Jesus:......”

If Jesus (the Son) is Jehovah (the Father) from the OT, and that is what is being said above unless you meant Jesus is NOT the Son or Jehovah is NOT the Father, then indeed the statement is being made that the Son is the Father.

Perhaps you would like to rephrase without that “strawman” silliness? Yes?

Having dispensed with that....Paul could, under inspiration of the holy spirit, apply OT prophecy spoken to and by Jehovah to His son since Jesus acted as His agent.

Exodus 31:18 says God wrote the first stone tablets with His finger but Paul said to the Galatians (3:19) that the Law was transmitted through angels by the hand of a mediator. So who wrote down the Law? Who spoke to Moses?

Exodus 33:11 says God spoke to Moses “face to face” and later vs. 20, 23 said no man may see Him and yet live.

In order to understand how Paul could apply OT Scripture it must be understood that many persons in the OT were prophetic of the Christ by their actions like David or Moses. Or Jehovah Himself.

And then there is the matter one person acting as an agent of another as that example in Exodus demonstrates.

549 posted on 04/23/2013 8:49:57 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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