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To: muawiyah

Dear muawiyah. I will leave the matter as a measure of our disagreement over your assertion that religion was more politics than faith


262 posted on 04/12/2013 4:59:42 AM PDT by Vermont Crank (Invisible yet are signs of the force of Tradition that'll act upon our inertia into Indifferentism)
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To: Vermont Crank
Gee whiz, you didn't like the evidence? Strong men living in a rough age, bounded on all sides by violence and degraded condition, most likely valued their political positions more highly than the correctness of this or that order of worship.

There were a few exceptions ~ a couple of the more recent anti-popes in that age ~ BTW, also of Breton origin, though living in Spain!

But, we digress. Just remember, the Second Amendment reflects an event that happened in the mid 1500s in France. At the cessation of hostilities the Catholics (Guise faction) stacked arms. The Protestants (the Huguenot faction) refused to do so!

Although personal firearms were relatively new, the participants in those first wars that saw their widespread use UNDERSTOOD.

The first act of the new government under Henry IV was the promulgation of the Edict of Nantes, the first statement respecting freedom of thought and worship.

Without personal ownership of firearms, not just 'arms', there can be no freedom of worship, nor of thought, nor of speech, nor of assembly, .......... they are all inextricably linked.

It's not that the French Huguenots invented the concepts ~ even their opponents, the French Catholics, immediately recognized THE DISCOVERY OF A NEW WAY OF LIFE.

The Catholics changed their minds on the matter over the years ~ except for some like Biden, Malloy, Pelosi and a whole host of others everyone agrees need to be excommunicated and dragged down from their high estates in the world of politics.

At least I hope you share those beliefs ~ or you are on the wrong board!

269 posted on 04/12/2013 5:09:31 AM PDT by muawiyah
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