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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“So, are you sure Tertullian isn’t a better friend to me than he is to you?”

Given as you don’t even believe in the existence of authoritative bishops today, yes, I believe he would side with me.

Looking over what you said - bishops have authority in their own areas - it is customary to have the Bishop of Jerusalem open things up. As for infalliability - this is a consistant problem.

You seem to believe that a Pope can never be wrong, and that a Pope can never be corrected. Yes, a Pope can be wrong and yes a pope can be corrected. Infalliability comes from the Magisterium, and the Pope’s infalliability stems from this.

If you had read the entirety of the catechism, you would understand this point.


339 posted on 04/06/2013 12:51:58 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

“Looking over what you said - bishops have authority in their own areas - it is customary to have the Bishop of Jerusalem open things up.”


James did not open it up. He closed it. He declared the decision at the end of the debate, to which Peter only contributed. And his opinion was not the opinion put forward by Peter.

Can you please tell me where in the catechism it says that in a council, it is the Bishop of the city wherein the council is held who presides over it and makes the judgment?

“You seem to believe that a Pope can never be wrong, and that a Pope can never be corrected.”


When have I ever said that Popes can never be wrong? Didn’t I mention the Pope who was killed when he was caught in bed with another man’s wife? But the question is, would the Holy Spirit through the Cardinals elect a man who is Damned and ruled by Satan?

“Infalliability comes from the Magisterium, and the Pope’s infalliability stems from this.”


So, the Pope is most infallible when he does not make decisions. For it was James who presided and made the judgment, and Peter only gave an opinion.


380 posted on 04/06/2013 2:14:11 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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