“Call me when you actually advance arguments that you believe are authoritative and we can have a substantive discussion.”
How childish. Why should I put forward anything further when the entire basis of your argument is undone? If the Pope has no historical supremacy, then the argument you are here putting forward (that I ought to be in submission to SOMEbody as long as it isn’t GOD) is already refuted. You are therefore asking me to “submit” to someone I consider “authoritative,” even when the Roman Church has no “authority” according to its own Popes, whom you are in rebellion against!
But as to “who do I submit to,” I would liked to have had the opportunity to sit and learn from Ignatius, who died a Bishop appointed by one of the Apostles DIRECTLY. It would be something to hear from him what it is like to die a man, being eaten by lions. Much better than dying a Papist, who is eaten by his Pope.
“If the Pope has no historical supremacy, then the argument you are here putting forward (that I ought to be in submission to SOMEbody as long as it isn’t GOD)”
Your argument is that the Church is divided equally between the Patriarchs of Rome, Antioch and Alexandria.
Ergo, we as Christians have a responsibility to submit ourselves to one of these three. Hence my question, “which one of these three are you in submission to?”
You turn around and say, no, I’m not in submission to any of these three - which refutes your argument right there.
You don’t believe that the Church is divided equally between the three. This whole line of inquiry is a smokescreen.
What you do believe is that you, and you alone is the primary authority and that nobody tells you what you should believe and why.
“I would liked to have had the opportunity to sit and learn from Ignatius, who died a Bishop appointed by one of the Apostles DIRECTLY. It would be something to hear from him what it is like to die a man, being eaten by lions. Much better than dying a Papist, who is eaten by his Pope.”
And you lie when you say this. You have no intention of submitting yourself to anyone. :)
As for the claims of the Catholic church, I’ll be happy to discuss this with you when you are in submission to one of the three that you have claimed that you believe are the true authority.