Posted on 03/28/2013 1:58:30 PM PDT by NYer
Edited on 03/28/2013 7:47:59 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Go away...this is a great story.....take your anti-Cgristian crap and go away.
Christ did this for all 12 of His Apostles....it’s a sign of SERVICE tp yopur fellow man......geesh.
RUN from that parish....RUN!! That Priest is NO GOOD!!
RUN from that parish....RUN!! That Priest is NO GOOD!!Just got back from Mass, and not only did women get their feet washed, but all those in attendance were invited to come up and have their feet washed. (About half reciprocated.) Considering the Palm Sunday "production," I guess I should not have been surprised, but yes, we're going to go to an Easter Mass at a parish nearby that has the Traditional Latin Mass.
4. Because the gospel of the mandatum read on Holy Thursday also depicts Jesus as the "Teacher and Lord" who humbly serves his disciples by performing this extraordinary gesture which goes beyond the laws of hospitality, the element of humble service has accentuated the celebration of the foot washing rite in the United States over the last decade or more. In this regard, it has become customary in many places to invite both men and women to be participants in this rite in recognition of the service that should be given by all the faithful to the Church and to the world. Thus, in the United States, a variation in the rite developed in which not only charity is signified but also humble service.
5. While this variation may differ from the rubric of the Sacramentary which mentions only men ("viri selecti"), it may nevertheless be said that the intention to emphasize service along with charity in the celebration of the rite is an understandable way of accentuating the evangelical command of the Lord, "who came to serve and not to be served," that all members of the Church must serve one another in love. http://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/liturgical-resources/triduum/holy-thursday-mandatum.cfm
I really don’t know what to make of this.
Did you READ the post???? The Priest said “now if there were only FEMALE PRIESTS”!! geesh....it had NOTHING to do with females getting their feet washed.
Liturgical guidelines. Like the Pharisees.
When Jesus comes back we can ask him about it.
It is a problem because, as post 25 points out, the rubrics say “viri”. Yes, the ritual could be changed, but ignoring it is not the same thing as changing it. There is a quote from Seneca that I have on my bulletin board at work, that translates roughly “No one is able to rule unless he is also able to be ruled.” Humility is a good thing, but an important aspect of humility is seeing one’s proper relationship with others. If the Pope appears to believe that he needn’t follow the Church’s liturgical rules, he will have a hard time convincing those who notice this to take him seriously when he tries to get them to follow any dictates laid down by the Church.
That said, he deserves some slack because he is a Jesuit, and the Jesuits have never been known for good liturgy. The old canard “lost as a Jesuit in Holy Week” would seem to apply.
Did you READ the post????I wrote the post; I hope I read it too... :)
There is a big space between being fixated on liturgical details at the expense of all else and doing whatever you feel like. Say the black, do the red.
Face it... Really... If Jesus were walking around with us today there is a huge, huge amount of our so-called worshipfulness that he’d likely toss aside.
It’s not about *looking* pious.
” Sorry, but I think this is grossly imprudent. “
Me too.
But I guess he figures everybody else is breaking all the rules - what the heck ~
Can the Pope change rules like this ? (Obviously he can ignore them.)
Holy Thursday is about the institution on the Holy Eucharist and the Holy Priesthood. The all male priesthood. It has always been a liturgical abuse to wash the feet of women at the Holy Thursday liturgy. It’s still a liturgical abuse. Even if a Pope does it, unless or until he changes the rubrics.
Maybe it’s a minor point. And it’s not a hill I’m willing to die on. I expressed my opinion and that’s pretty much all I’m going to say about it.
1) I am a Christian so, therefore, not anti-Christian.
2) I am trying to illustrate the danger of taking the examples of Scripture literally. I have no problem with the Pontiff washing the feet of others as a symbol of his Servants Heart and to reflect Christ’s teachings but I am not so sure he needs to take it so literally nor for other Christians to be impressed that he takes it so literally.
Also sell off the artwork, statues and stained glass and stuff, so the rich can have it to themselves, and the poor can worship in school gyms.
Just like the great Apostle said, "Why wasn't this perfumed oil sold for 300 days' wages, and the money given to the poor?"
I spent a good part of the afternoon trying to track down an 85 year old retired priest from out of town who sometimes celebrates the Tridentine Mass here, trying to find out if he might possibly be in town Sunday. Finally got a hold of him; he answered the phone but my heart sank when he said no, he'll be going elsewhere. He paused for just a second, but then said "But another priest is driving from even further away to your parish to celebrate the Latin Mass". Boy, was I overjoyed to hear that! By the way, please pray for that other priest and his safe drive over here and back: he is even older and has been ill recently. Have a Blessed Easter.
And frankly, he can wash anybody's feet on any other day he wants, women's and men's as well, but this was on one of the most important liturgical days of the year, when he should have followed the rubrics and presided at the service at the St. John Lateran Basilica, which is his duty as Bishop of Rome.
It's the Triduum, for Christ's sake.
As our spiritual forefathers said, and with indignation, mind you: "There are six days in which men ought to work: in them therefore come and be healed, and not on the sabbath day."
(Forgive me, Brian, my friend.)
Out here in the high west that foot washin’ stuff seems pretty exotic, whatever the gender of the washer/washee. I just yanked off my dusty cowboy boots and found a small dead scorpion mashed on the heel.
Just trying to get oriented, here.
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