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To: Salvation; Dutchboy88
You might want to look into that.

Augustine stated the definition of a Pelagian and a Semi-Pelagian very well in his Treatise on the Predestination of the Saints. :

The Pelagian error wasn't just about God's grace to remain chasten, it was about God's divine grace to choose us for His kingdom and to give us His grace to substain us. If we understand God saves us, then as Augustine states, He saved us to do good works. We don't do good works because we are saved.

The Father works in all Christians to bring about His purpose. It is not dependent on us but on His will to lead us into paths of righteousness for His name sake. Some people might call this easy believability but so be it. He is our Great Shepherd. We don't run rampant on the hills. He guides and leads us. And when we stray we are comforted by knowing that He will take His rod and staff to us to keep us on target.

As Dutchboy rightfully points out, the Church is steeped in Semi-Pelagianism (as well as most of Protestantism).

WE WERE ELECTED AND PREDESTINATED, NOT BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO BE HOLY, BUT IN ORDER THAT WE MIGHT BE SO.-AUGUSTINE

82 posted on 03/29/2013 3:16:35 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

“As Dutchboy rightfully points out, the Church is steeped in Semi-Pelagianism (as well as most of Protestantism).”


I suspect that is the reason why the church in America is so utterly ineffectual.


83 posted on 03/29/2013 3:49:13 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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