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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
“Yeshua said that none can come to Him unless they have been called by the Father” ... Here is the scripture you have referenced: Mat 22:9-14

Umm, no, the Scripture I was referencing was,

John 6:44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, ‘AND THEY SHALL ALL BE TAUGHT BY GOD.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.

No one is ever chosen by their works and HRN does not teach this. What they teach is works as evidence of ones faith just as James defines it, no more , no less. Grace is absolutely free and there is nothing we can do to obligate God to give it to us. NOTHING! NADA! But we understand that by accepting that gift of grace, we then have the love in our hearts to never ever want to disappoint the Father, just as we never wished to disappoint our earthly parents as to bring disgrace to their names, and dishonor their authority over us.

God's Name carries the full force of His Authority over our lives, just as it did Yeshua.

Rm 6:16 Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that ones slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness?

1Jn 3:4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.

2Thess 2:3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, ... 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

There are only 2 spirits in this world, the Spirit of Truth that comes from God the Father or the spirit of the lawlessone who is the serpent in the garden.

You asked where dietary laws? Where is circumcision? Where are feast days? What you do not see is that you answered your own questions when you quoted Mt 22:40 “On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.”

But let's look at the 2 greatest commands? Where did they come from?

Lev 19:18 You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the LORD.

Dt 6:5 You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.

Did you really think the Son came up with new doctrine of His own when He clearly stated over and over again that He spoke not one word of His own, but only that given to Him from the Father?

I do not follow Jewish traditions (oral law aka Talmud) nor do I promote them as that is clearly a violation of Yeshua’s commands in Mark 7, doctrines and traditions that make void the authority of the Law of God. But when the Word of God clearly says that something is forever, I trust Him that that I am to learn from what He says and to follow those instructions with all my heart.

Rm 7 ... we became dead to the law of adultery as we had strayed from the true worship of God by worshiping Him according to the traditions and doctrines of man and in the eyes of God, He sees that as adultery. That is the golden calf incident. But really, let's take a look at what Paul first said when he began in Romans 7,

“Or do you not know, brethren (for I speak to those who know the Law), that the Law has dominion over a man as long as he lives?”

So it would seem that unless you are studied in “the Law” aka Moses, then Paul is not speaking to you because you wouldn't understand what he was speaking to which is spiritual adultery as what had happened at the golden calf incident where they proclaimed it was a feast to God but then turned and held it according to their desires and not His desire as He had just commanded them prior to Moses ascending the mountain. They said “I do” then they went and continued in their own ways rather than the way God set before them. Paul tells us that these became examples to us (1Cor 10) so that we would not fall into their rebellious and disobedient ways.

But whatever it is, it all is a matter of the heart, a circumcised heart. If ones heart is circumcised, one will want to with all their heart, soul and strength do all that is pleasing to God as He gave it to us to do. And a circumcised heart will speak His Word truthfully, not twisting it to our own destruction as has been done over and over and over again by all walks of religion.

Putting on the yoke of Yeshua is a light as He said it is. No longer do I feel the pressures of the man made religious days that have been turned into nothing more than commercialism and the result, lower blood pressure and a more fruitful bank account that we can share with those more needy than us. Putting on the yoke of Yeshua is truly as James & John said it would be, LIBERTY! NOT Bondage! and Not Burdensome! Why, because one truly feels His presence like one has never felt before when one was weighed down by the doctrines and teachings of men who do not walk in the Way of Yeshua.

1Jn 2:6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.

Jam 2:12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the Law of liberty.

I think of it as God's Constitution that includes His Bill of Rights as well as His additional amendments to further clarify the original Law of His Land, His Promised Land that is our inheritance and it is not of this world, but of the world to come. His Constitution, Bill of Rights and amendments that we all will be judged by as to whether we had it in our hearts to obey Him or not for He did not send His Son to form a church but to restore His nation, His kingdom of priests who are a special and set apart people from those of the doctrines and traditions of men who twist, add to and take away from His Word in order to create their own authority outside of His true authority over all that He created and gives life to.

12 posted on 03/29/2013 1:32:50 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

“Umm, no, the Scripture I was referencing was,”


I specifically quoted you writing “many are called, few enter,” which was your variation of “many are called, few are chosen,” which I quoted and responded to. I made no reference to anything else you were saying.

” What they teach is works as evidence of ones faith just as James defines it, no more , no less. “


James defines it:

Jas 2:8-10 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: (9) But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. (10) For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

No mention of circumcision, dietary laws, or anything of that nature.

“You asked where dietary laws? Where is circumcision? Where are feast days?”


Your constant insistence over these vain laws which we are dead to have already been refuted, especially by the quotes from Romans 14 and 1 Cor 10 which bring up the issue of foods and sacred days plainly.

“His Constitution, Bill of Rights and amendments that we all will be judged by”


We put on Christ, and therefore pass from judgment to life.


13 posted on 03/29/2013 1:51:19 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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