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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
As an additional note to the previous reply, what Paul was alluding to on Rm 9 is that because of God's grace that has been since He sent Adam and Eve packing from the garden, no man can claim that God is obligated to receive them into His eternal kingdom because of their works, this way no man can boast. But this grace does in no way exempt us from serving God as God wants to be served which Yeshua exemplified for us so beautifully.

There is only one truth and one true way in this world and that is God's truth and His way. Everything else is of man and man's carnal nature that we were born into due to the first act of disobedience towards God.

Rm 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

Jn 16:13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.

The Spirit of Truth who hears and speaks the words of the Father just as it was for the Yeshua in the flesh as exampled in his 40 days of testing which was prophesied to happen for all born in the flesh in Dt 8:2-3.

In Eze 20, God prophesies of the time of Yeshua’s return when the rebels will be purged from amongst the flock. In Eze 36 He speaks of how the remaining will be cleansed from all their unrighteousness. But, in Rev 19:7-8 the bride is the one who has already prepared herself prior to Yeshua’s return (Mt 25) and because of her preparation, she is given the gift of the fine wedding linen of righteousness. It does not say that Yeshua was their preparation, it says she prepared herself and as earthly wedding prep has taught us, every bride has an attendant and for we the bride of Messiah, that attendant is the Father's Spirit of Truth, the same truth that was and is in Yeshua. The truth that has been from everlasting and will remain everlasting as God and the Son are outside of time as to them there is only one time frame and that is the time frame of God the Father who is infinite and outside the comprehension of man's feeble and corrupt minds. No dispensations, no earth ages just one cycle of time that repeats over and over again until the day He comes to rid us of man's dispensations and ages of time to reimplement His “ONE” and eternal kingdom as it was meant to be in the beginning.

We can humbly submit now, or we can wait and do it the hard way as they did in the wilderness, that is if we survive because the only ones gathered at His return are the ones who have already proven themselves worthy to be a priest of God by obeying God and teaching others to do as Yeshua did.

1Pet 2:9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;

If it is the Father who calls us out to come to His son,then it is the Father to whom we owe obesiance, just as the Son.

Mt 5:19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

The scribes and pharisees were at least following the commands, albeit they were doing it with their oral law added to it, but never did they set aside the commands as Christian doctrine of cheap grace teaches. Really, just how important are the food laws? Peter speaks of them in the 1st chapter of his 1st epistle which ends by telling us to cleanse ourselves, but more importantly, God speaks of them through His prophet Isaiah,

Is 65:2 "I have stretched out My hands all day long to a rebellious people, Who walk in a way that is not good, According to their own thoughts; ... 4 who sit among the graves, And spend the night in the tombs; Who eat swine's flesh, And the broth of abominable things is in their vessels;"

Is 66:16 "For by fire and by His sword The LORD will judge all flesh; And the slain of the LORD shall be many. 17 Those who sanctify themselves and purify themselves, To go to the gardens after an idol in the midst, eating swine's flesh and the abomination and the mouse, shall be consumed together," says the LORD.

If our desire is to be part of the bride as the Father desires and has called us to be, then we must also desire to be His priests as that is what the bride is, His priests of the order of Malki'Tzedek under the order and direction of Yeshua the High Priest of the order of Malki'Tzedek. No priest enters the tablernalcle without first being cleansed and that is what Torah does, it instructs us how to cleanse ourselves for service in His holy tabernacle.

The true Gospel message:

Ex 19:5 Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people; for all the earth is Mine. 6 And you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.' These are the words which you shall speak to the children of Israel." 7 So Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before them all these words which the LORD commanded him. 8 Then all the people answered together and said, "All that the LORD has spoken we will do." So Moses brought back the words of the people to the LORD. 9 And the LORD said to Moses, "Behold, I come to you in the thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with you, and believe you forever." So Moses told the words of the people to the LORD. 10 Then the LORD said to Moses, "Go to the people and consecrate them today and tomorrow, and let them wash their clothes. 11 And let them be ready for the third day. For on the third day the LORD will come down upon Mount Sinai in the sight of all the people.

We are nearing that third day, should we not be preparing and cleansing ourselves for His service He has called us to?

10 posted on 03/29/2013 12:34:53 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

“As an additional note to the previous reply, what Paul was alluding to on Rm 9 is that because of God’s grace that has been since He sent Adam and Eve packing from the garden, no man can claim that God is obligated to receive them into His eternal kingdom because of their works, this way no man can boast. But this grace does in no way exempt us from serving God as God wants to be served which Yeshua exemplified for us so beautifully.”


What Romans 9 and the rest of the Bible actually teaches is that salvation is by the grace of God, who is utterly sovereign in election and justification. There’s no getting around it, which is why you won’t examine Romans 9 in detail. It does not take out serving God. It takes out the idea that by serving God we are saving ourselves. It also shows that serving God is the fruit of the Spirit, which therefore means it is God working in us, and not the man working in God.

As to the Food Laws or Feast Days or other such things, we are not bound to them. Not only that, but we are commanded not to engage in such doubtful disputations as sacred days or dietary arguments. The following scriptures well establish this:

Rom 14:1-6 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. (2) For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. (3) Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. (4) Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. (5) One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. (6) He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

If eating or not eating are both to the Lord, how can either be wrong? Rather it is the heart of the man that is most important, and not on such minor doctrines as these.

Our liberty in Christ is such that we are not bound to such silly issues (as we are under the Law of Christ), which were symbols only of greater spiritual truths. Certainly what comes out of a man’s mouth is more important than what goes into it.

1Co 10:23-29 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. (24) Let no man seek his own, but every man another’s wealth. (25) Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake: (26) For the earth is the Lord’s, and the fulness thereof. (27) If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake. (28) But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord’s, and the fulness thereof: (29) Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man’s conscience?


11 posted on 03/29/2013 12:48:01 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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