Two popes, two Palm Sundays (a visual contrast)

The Deacon's Bench ^ | March 24, 2013 | Deacon Greg Kandra

[NYer]

An interesting study in contrasts.

[Recovering Ex-hippie]

THE priests are married to the church....if you don’t like that there are LOTS of other Christian churches.

I wish people would quit trying to remake the Catholic church or remake our country!

[trisham]

Thank you for your kind response.

[Recovering Ex-hippie]

freedom Star is a troll and the other Brilliant Catholic theologins merely snipe at Catholics...just being in THEIR Christian churches is just not enough...they want to remake Catholocism.Yeesh.

[Mrs. Don-o]

[trisham]

God bless you, friend. :)

[trisham]

Both have their ways. God bless them.

[353FMG]

Thank you, thank U.

He does, daily and profusely.

[trisham]

:) You’re very kind.

[tiki]

It doesn’t mean he had a live wife though. Truly, we don’t really know but I don’t imagine that Jesus would choose a man to abandon his wife and follow Him. Marriage is a sacrament and it is so because Jesus made it clear how important it was.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Actually, Peter was either a married man or a widower at the time he became an Apostle. Not t'other way around. He did not becdome an Apostle and then get married.

Matrimony ---> then ---> Holy Orders (priest): yes (sometimes)

Holy Orders (priest) ---> then ---> Matrimony: no (never)

In the same way, in the Catholic Churh there are married men who have become priests (usually in one of the non-Latin Churches, or possibly priest-converts from Anglicanism) --- but nobody who is a priest, first, can THEN get married and continue to serve as a priest.

It has always been in this way, in the Catholic and Orthodox churches, going back to the time of the Apostles.

[trisham]

Well said, Mrs. D.

[nitzy]

You are crazy. There is a big difference. Per the pictures, the new pope walks next to way more black people.

[mwilli20]

Every apple... That’s funny.

Remember the Lord’s prayer. “... Sed libera nos a malo”

Malo is evil.

[353FMG]

>Mary is not God. Jesus is.<

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Very astute observation.

In total sync with the teachings of the RCC.
Take time and do research what the RCC’s teachings are of Mary and the saints. Don’t remain stuck in your misinformed observations of the Catholic Church.

[Jvette]

I have loved JPII and Benedict XVI and I think I will love this new pope, Francis as well.

May God bless him as much as I believe He has blessed us with Francis.

[NYer]

Word Origin & History – venerate 1620s, from L. veneratus, pp. of venerari "to reverence, worship"

As noted above, the proper terminology is dulia.

dulia [ˈdjuːlɪə]

n

(Christianity / Roman Catholic Church) (Christianity / Eastern Church (Greek & Russian Orthodox)) the veneration accorded to saints in the Roman Catholic and Eastern Churches, as contrasted with hyperdulia and latria

[from Medieval Latin: service, from Greek douleia slavery, from doulos slave]

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dulia

the devotion, veneration, or respect accorded saints.

See also: Catholicism, Saints

[Mrs. Don-o]

"I’ve always thought of the Vatican and the “people” within as being very vain."

Are you familiar with the USMC? Then this should help you understand why the "vanity" thing is a misconception. A cleric's vesments are not a personal fashion statement, any more than a Marine's Dress Blues.

It's the official clothing of office and ceremony, not a private caprice.

[Mrs. Don-o]

My friends, you may enjoy this from the wonderful G.K. Chesterton:

"Becket wore a hair shirt under his gold and crimson, and there is much to be said for the combination; for Becket got the benefit of the hair shirt while the people in the street got the benefit of the crimson and gold. It is at least better than the manner of the modern millionaire, who has the black and the drab outwardly for others, and the gold next his heart."

[Mrs. Don-o]

There is a legitimate distinction, though, between "venerate" and "adore." You could say (just cut-and-pasting these quotes at random)

• "the soldier venerated his wife's love-letter with a kiss"
  
• Glenn Beck said he venerates "our sacred American heroes and ideas"
  
• The Tea Partiers venerate those who have been successful by their own efforts, like Thomas Edison..."
  
• the delicacy of his music derives from the past masters he venerates—Casals and Horowitz were his mentors"

Eetcetera. Its general meaning is to honor as a valued person, not to adore as the Supreme Being.

The Commandment "Honor thy father and thy mother" encourages veneration in this sense --- not in the sense of ancestor-worship.

[Tax-chick]

I'll be sure to return the favor and visit a protestant thread.

I don't get the amusement value of going onto threads and telling other people what they believe.

But on lthe other hand, most people aren't that interested in styles of lace, so ...