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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I believe the doctrine is that no election, no... the rest.

So everything is conditional upon election. This is salvation by election. Quite different from the teaching of other Christian doctrine.


27 posted on 03/18/2013 2:54:17 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

Nay, it is salvation by the grace of God. As Paul said, it is not by him who runs, or him who wills, but of God who shows mercy. Paul himself is the poster child of it, who was saved mightily by the direct appearance of Christ. Your philosophical problems and misuse of the word aside, it matters nothing if you don’t reconcile the scriptures. This IS the Gospels, and runs up and down the entire New Testament.


28 posted on 03/18/2013 3:03:42 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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