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To: patlin
Really, why did Jesus tells us to be careful lest our crown be taken away if we couldn’t loose it by some action on our part?

So....

How many times does Christ have to die on the cross?

Be specific.

86 posted on 03/10/2013 6:24:55 PM PDT by sauropod (I will not comply)
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To: sauropod; patlin

>> “How many times does Christ have to die on the cross?” <<

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Wrong question.

Your “crown” is not your salvation.


92 posted on 03/10/2013 6:41:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: sauropod
Who said Christ had to die more than once? Certainly not I and neither did James.

Jas 5:19 Brothers, if anyone among you goes astray from the truth, and someone turns him back, 20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the straying of his way shall save a life from death and cover a great number of sins.

Hence the false doctrine of once saved always saved. It seems that James never got that message and for that matter, neither did the Word of God, our Messiah.

John 15:1 “I am the true vine, and My Father is the gardener. 2 “Every branch in Me that bears no fruit He takes away. And every branch that bears fruit He prunes, so that it bears more fruit. 3 “You are already clean because of the Word which I have spoken to you. 4 “Stay in Me, and I stay in you. As the branch is unable to bear fruit of itself, unless it stays in the vine, so neither you, unless you stay in Me. 5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who stays in Me, and I in him, he bears much fruit. Because without Me you are able to do naught! 6 “If anyone does not stay in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up. And they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.

John 15:7 “If you stay in Me, and My Words stay in you, you shall ask whatever you wish, and it shall be done for you. 8 “In this My Father is esteemed, that you bear much fruit, and you shall be My taught ones. 9 “As the Father has loved Me, I have also loved you. Stay in My love. 10 “If you guard My commands, you shall stay in My love, even as I have guarded My Father’s commands and stay in His love. Footnote:See 14:12-17.

John 14:12 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he shall do also. And greater works than these he shall do, because I go to My Father. 13 “And whatever you ask in My Name, that I shall do, in order that the Father might be esteemed in the Son. 14 “If you ask whatever in My Name, I shall do it. 15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.1 Footnote: 1See Ex. 20:6, vv. 21&23, 1 John 5:2-3, 2 John v. 6. 16 “And I shall ask the Father, and He shall give you another Helper, to stay with you forever – 17 the Spirit of the Truth, whom the world is unable to receive, because it does not see Him or know Him. But you know Him, for He stays with you and shall be in you.

98 posted on 03/10/2013 7:06:57 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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