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To: NKP_Vet; roamer_1
The Catholic Church was STARTED BY CHRIST.

My, didn't you read my post?

The catholic (universal) church was started by Jesus Christ. What Christ you are talking about I have no idea.

That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall be saved.--Romans 10:9

As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; 15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.--John 3:14

His church is made of of every soul that believes in Him and is born again and has a personal relationship with Jesus, us in Him and Him in us. This is what Jesus Christ SAID.

The Catholic Church was STARTED BY CHRIST. As such it is divinely inspired. It is God’s Pilgrim Church on Earth.

No it most certainly isn't. I know you are bound to believe and pass around that misconception, fine.

Your PROTESTant ecclesiastical community was started by a mortal man, Smith, Luther, Calvin, whatever you want to call him.
It's not my concern. I have made it clear that I am NOT a Protestant, yet you continue to waste words acting like I am.

Your love for Joseph Smith and faith in the LDS Mormon church is just apalling.

Makes as much sense doesn't it?

If I am a Protestant, you are a Mormon. Own it.

Without the Catholic Church there would have never been any Gospels for you to read.

Oh that's right, you don't have any idea what and who the Holy Spirit is and His purpose.

I read the Bible brought to Christians by the Holy Spirit.

Catholism seems to have put some books together to form a Bible, but while doing so destroyed those works they did not like.

The Holy Spirit has correcrted that for Christians, for Catholics? Not so much sadly.

Your statement reeks of propanganda and falseity.

There are six things which the LORD hates, Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him:

Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood,

A heart that devises wicked plans,

Feet that run rapidly to evil,

A false witness who utters lies,

And one who spreads strife among brothers.---Proverbs 6:16-19

A lying tongue hates those that are afflicted by it; and a flattering mouth works ruin.--Proverbs 26:28

Now have a great day and quit showing your lack of knowledge of the history of Christianity.

I have a great day every day, you? Not so much it seems.

Your History is Catholic history.

I am well versed in Christian history and have been schooling you in it. But it seems like that pesky "have eyes to see but do not see and ears to hear but do not hear" and "Having eyes do you not see, and having ears do you not hear?" thingie from the Bible.

Jesus is still knocking, open the door and He will come in. It's very simple to have a personal born again relationship with Him.

I'd love to see you as a member of His church.

104 posted on 03/11/2013 12:55:12 PM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - Andrew Breitbart The King of All Media (RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Syncro

“Your History is Catholic history”.

Catholic history IS CHRISTIAN HISTORY. If you had lived before your glorious reformation in the 1500s you would have been a Catholic. Luther absolutely never intended for the Catholic Church to break apart. He wanted public discussions about indulgencies to be made by the Church. But idiots around him had other ideas. The forces of Satan won out and the Church was split, and apostolic succession was broken forever for those that followed the forces of evil that were intent on destroying the Church. Luther would have been appalled at the idea of a faith calling itself the Luthern Church. It was morons that followed him that broke away from the TRUE CHURCH, i.e, CATHOLIC CHURCH.

This protest against indulgences would become a protest against Rome itself and thus marked the start of the Protestant Reformation.

Amazingly, this protest would succeed, gain the support of German nobles, and overthrow the dominion of the pope in central Europe. In fact, no public discussion took place at all, but students—who already agreed with him—published and spread the 95 theses throughout Germany in the matter of a few weeks.

Keep in mind though, that at the time …

Luther had as yet no idea of reforming the Catholic church, and still less of separating from it. All the roots of his life and piety were in the historic church, and he considered himself a good Catholic even in 1517, and was so in fact. He still devoutly prayed to the Virgin Mary from the pulpit; he did not doubt the intercession of saints in heaven for the sinners on earth; he celebrated mass with full belief in the repetition of the sacrifice on the cross and the miracle of transubstantiation. (History of the Christian Church, Vol. VII, ch. 2, sec. 29)

Later, shortly before his death, Luther would write a preface to the 95 theses describing himself as an “insane papist” at the time, and he added, “I would have readily murdered any person who denied obedience to the Pope.”


105 posted on 03/11/2013 3:38:59 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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