why.....if not then, when???and really not at His birth, but when He gave unto Peter the authority to lead His church and gave him the keys to the kingdom of Heaven....works for me!
why.....if not then, when???and really not at His birth...Just repeating what you said with the EXACT number of years from now back to the day Jesus was born. And you have said OVER AND OVER again that is when the Catholic church started.
Now you change what you said before.
But you are just following the example set by your popes, say one thing and then change it as if no one would notice.
The beginning of your belief system started with Peter...Simon Peter Magus, your first pope. Works for you.
Paul, who wrote half the new testament, explained that pretty clearly
Credibility is absent from your posts.