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To: terycarl

What an odd reply regarding such a key tenet of your faith. You’d think a list of infallible, ex cathedra statements, rare and brief as you say, would be chiseled in stone somewhere amongst the statues and reliquaries. Or, might it be that there is no approved list of infallible, ex cathedra statements because papal infallibility only became doctrine in 1870?

I took your advice and Googled it, by the way. There is wide disagreement upon the matter, even on Catholic forums. Especially there, actually.


199 posted on 02/23/2013 9:44:54 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry; terycarl
What an odd reply regarding such a key tenet of your faith. You’d think a list of infallible, ex cathedra statements, rare and brief as you say, would be chiseled in stone somewhere amongst the statues and reliquaries. Or, might it be that there is no approved list of infallible, ex cathedra statements because papal infallibility only became doctrine in 1870?

I think one of those "rare" statements was in 1870 when the Pope declared, ex-cathedra, that whatever the Pope declared ex-cathedra was infallible. So Rome infallibly declared that she was infallible. That's why one Pope can proclaim that nobody can be saved who is not a Roman Catholic and subject to the Pope and a future Pope can say, "Nevermind. He didn't say it officially.".

202 posted on 02/23/2013 11:11:19 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Or, might it be that there is no approved list of infallible, ex cathedra statements because papal infallibility only became doctrine in 1870?

yeah, but it was retroactive......when something is declared a truth, that means that it was always the truth....didn't become truth at that point.

221 posted on 02/24/2013 12:43:06 PM PST by terycarl
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To: RegulatorCountry
Or, might it be that there is no approved list of infallible, ex cathedra statements because papal infallibility only became doctrine in 1870?

yeah, but it was retroactive......when something is declared a truth, that means that it was always the truth....didn't become truth at that point.

222 posted on 02/24/2013 12:46:15 PM PST by terycarl
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