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To: ebb tide

He was not permitted to ordain priests without the permission of the Pope. Same with Lefebvre. Obedience is a virtue, and if Fellay + Lefebvre are unwilling to obey they need to go.

Arrogating unwarranted authority is a huge issue. Fellay and Lefebvre seem to assume that the Church can’t do without them. Their value increases in their fidelity to the Church and to Benedict XVI and diminishes in their infidelity to the oaths they once swore many years ago.

I don’t have much sympathy for Fellay et al. If they really want to be reconciled, the door is open. Fish or cut bait.


37 posted on 02/01/2013 6:17:23 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

After the lifting of the excommunications, on what grounds was Bishop Fellay forbidden from ordaining priests? As a matter fact, Bishop Fellay moved the ordinations, at the request of Rome, from Germany to Switzerland. The request was due to fury of the German Archbishop Mueller, now prefect of the CDF.


38 posted on 02/01/2013 6:35:45 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: JCBreckenridge

“Their value increases in their fidelity to the Church and to Benedict XVI and diminishes in their infidelity to the oaths they once swore many years ago.”

Are you talking about the Oath Against Modernism that Popes John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul II, and Benedict XVI all swore to? The SSPX priest have never defied their oaths, unlike the above.


54 posted on 02/02/2013 4:46:30 PM PST by ebb tide
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