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Confession to an SSPX priest a sin? [CATHOLIC CAUCUS]
WDTPRS ^ | January 30, 2013 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 01/30/2013 2:59:30 PM PST by NYer

From a reader:

While doing research I came across something that said that one of the faithful who knowingly receives a Sacrament from a priest without faculties commits a sin. I have always attended SSPX chapels and gone to confession there. But after what I read, I haven’t known what to do. I haven’t gone to Confession in months. I’m also afraid of having a disagreement with my parents. My Dad has very strong opinions about anything not connected with the SSPX.

The Church’s law says clearly that if a priest lacks the faculties from proper authority to receive sacramental confessions, and therefore absolve sins, then the absolution is invalid. The priest must have faculties from the Church to absolve validly.

The 1983 Code of Canon Law says that:

Can. 966 §1 For the valid absolution of sins, it is required that, in addition to the power of order, the minister has the faculty to exercise that power in respect of the faithful to whom he gives absolution.
§2 A priest can be given this faculty either by the law itself, or by a concession issued by the competent authority in accordance with can. 969.

From this we see that priests must have permission of the Church to absolve sins. The Church, by the way, gets to determine how the sacraments are administered. The SSPX does not get to decide how sacraments are administered.

Usually it is a diocesan bishop or major superior of a religious order that give these faculties to a priest in a stable way. In danger of death of a person the Church’s law says that, in that circumstance, even a “laicized” priest has faculties. This is because the salvation of the soul of the dying person is paramount.

We don’t know what God does for the soul of a person who, in good will and in ignorance, goes to confess to a priest who lacks faculties. We can’t judge that. God will do as it pleases Him to do.

Also, we have to consider culpable and inculpable ignorance. Catholics ought to inform themselves about their Faith. To what extent is a matter for debate. But once you walk through the door of exploring your Faith even to the point of learning about the law and faculties that priests have, I think you are on the hook. You don’t have to wonder ever about priests at the local parish or official chapel established by the local diocese. Even Father “Just call me ‘Bob’” has faculties, even though he is a heretic.

That said, if a person has been informed that SSPX priests do not have faculties to receive sacramental confessions, and goes to them anyway, a huge problem is introduced. Those priests don’t – in normal circumstances – have faculties. Period. Some people say they have “emergency powers”. The Church does not agree. They don’t have faculties.

It seems to me that if a person knows that the priest does NOT have faculties, and he goes to him anyway, then he knows that he is simulating a sacrament. That would be a sin.

Simulating a sacrament can bring ecclesiastical penalties, by the way (can. 1379).

If there are doubts, true doubts, that is another matter. But the prudent person would find an actual confessor, a priest who without doubt has faculties. Go to the local parish, a real parish of the diocese, and you don’t have to doubt, even if the priest is a complete jerk.

And please understand that in writing this I am not saying that the SSPX priests are bad men. Those whom I have met have seemed to be prayerful men who want to be good priests. But they don’t have faculties. I long for them to be reconciled with the Church so that we can all benefit from their service and example and zeal.

This is serious business, friends. You never want to doubt that your sins are absolved. Don’t fool around with this.

The value of a valid absolution that you don’t have to doubt by far outweighs the irritation that some dopey priest inflicts by saying that X isn’t a sin, etc.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Worship
KEYWORDS: sacraments; sspx
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To: ebb tide

One, the ban Benedict lifted concerned quite a few more people than Fellay. He couldn’t very well lift it for some and keep others out. So the Pope decided to give them a chance to come back and reconcile.

Fellay’s been given a chance to repent. He has not yet taken it. Until he does, he’ll still be under discipline for his violations of canon law. And he certainly won’t be a priest or have any legitimate authority.

Again, this is just my opinion - Fellay isn’t interested in reconciliation. Eventually he will tire the patience, or say something stupid and get himself excommunicated again.

Perhaps Fellay will surprise me. We shall see.


61 posted on 02/02/2013 8:09:29 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

My argument is from holy Popes and Saints; it has nothing to do with Bishop Fellay. St. Paul never said there was salvation outside the Church.


62 posted on 02/02/2013 8:10:32 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: JCBreckenridge

“One, the ban Benedict lifted concerned quite a few more people than Fellay.”

What “ban” and what “people” are you talking about?

It was Pope Benedict, unlike his immediate predecessor, who declared the Traditional Latin Mass was never abrogated.

So what ban was lifted?


63 posted on 02/02/2013 8:31:12 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: JCBreckenridge

St. Paul never said there was salvation outside the Church. As a matter of fact he was martyred for preaching the opposite.


64 posted on 02/02/2013 8:54:22 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: steve86

Since I’m up early, even for me, with my catz and my anxieties (maybe the same thing ...), I just wanted to let you know that I’ve had your family constantly in prayer! I printed a picture of the martyrdom of Bl. Father Pro and put it as a bookmark in my journal, so at least once a day, he and I both remember that you need God’s blessings.

Excelsior, FRiend ... it will soon be spring, even where you live.


65 posted on 02/03/2013 2:18:48 AM PST by Tax-chick (If you can't say anything nice, have some more wine.)
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To: Tax-chick

My goodness, that’s the nicest message I’ve ever received on FR or the Greater Internetz. Thank you very much.

A baby girl was born on the 11th, perfectly healthy — quite a miracle — but the mother is still not well and is not cooperative with my wife at the moment - so no more seeing the baby for now. The Guardian Ad Litem wishes we could keep the four little kids permanently but it really isn’t feasible. Many of my prayers are directed to the disposition of those children and particularly that they end up in a Christian home or homes (more likely). My wife still hopes the kids could go back with their mother but with the new father moved in there that seems even less likely.

I will look up Blessed Father Pro (forgot to last time) and see if he was from any of the areas we visited in Mexico way back then. Things like that are always interesting. Don’t forget to ask Saint Dymphna for favors if your anxieties start to be a problem. I keep a direct line open to her 24x7!

Will take the two older girls to Latin Mass later today. Martha is catechizing the little kids while they’re here and I took them to two VBS last summer. Will send a pic. Thank you again!


66 posted on 02/03/2013 10:00:21 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: ebb tide

You need to reread the Epistle of the Romans.

Paul says in Romans 2:13-6

“For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.) This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.”


67 posted on 02/03/2013 10:01:06 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: steve86

I went to English and Spanish Mass today.

I try to get a half hour in the early morning with the Psalms, to help with the anxiety, but sometimes little boys turn up too early. If they don’t like their supper, they want breakfast around 5:30 a.m.!


68 posted on 02/03/2013 3:16:53 PM PST by Tax-chick (And I'm like, "So we die. Whatever.")
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