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To: CynicalBear; presently no screen name; betty boop; metmom; HarleyD; Alamo-Girl; boatbums; xzins
It may be “the mere measure of faith” but it’s still the faith OF God isn’t it.

If it is a measure of faith given to you by God, then it is your faith. If it is the faith of God (which by definition would necessarily be a perfect, unwavering, complete and total faith) then I think that once you have that, you can never stray from the faith and your eternal destiny is sealed forever.

I tend to think that nobody on earth has such faith. Instead we have much less than a mustard seed of faith given to us as a gift from God. But then it is a faith IN God and not THE FAITH OF GOD.

Only cultists like Kevin Copeland believe in that kind of faith being transmitted to mere mortals. This makes them, by their own claim, "little gods".

Do you share that belief with Kevin Copeland? Is that the point you were trying to make?

975 posted on 02/04/2013 3:37:48 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: P-Marlowe; presently no screen name; betty boop; metmom; HarleyD; Alamo-Girl; boatbums; xzins
>>” I think”, “I tend to think”<<

Ah hu!

>> Instead we have much less than a mustard seed of faith given to us as a gift from God.<<

So God gives us faith and now it’s we who take credit for using that faith. Got it.

>> Do you share that belief with Kevin Copeland?<<

I really don’t know what Kevin Copeland believes.

976 posted on 02/04/2013 4:01:24 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2)
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To: P-Marlowe; CynicalBear; betty boop; xzins; metmom
If it is the faith of God (which by definition would necessarily be a perfect, unwavering, complete and total faith) then I think that once you have that, you can never stray from the faith and your eternal destiny is sealed forever.

According to Scripture, our eternal destiny IS sealed forever by faith. So, if that means we have been given the faith of Christ when we believe in Him, we ARE sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption and we are forever HIS. I think far too much is being made of the words "in" and "of". If you looked at an online parallel Bible at Galatians 2:20, it's about 50/50 for "faith OF Christ" and "faith IN Christ". Of course, the translators often use words in English that best impart the original languages' meanings and in order to do that they add extra words. The KJV designates added words by using italics, and it is understood that it means the word was "added by the translators". This ongoing nattering over the right word seems to have lost the point.

If people such as Copeland deduce they are "little gods" because they have the "faith of God", then that is their own peculiar interpretation, outside of Scripture. We certainly have other Scriptures that adequately disprove such an UN-orthodox belief. And that really IS the special quality of believing the Bible is our rule of faith. Accepting sola Scriptura essentially means that all truth claims for the Christian faith must be measured BY Scripture. It does NOT mean that there are no other resources available to a Christian who seeks to understand his faith - including those gifted to the church in the forms of teachers, pastors, etc. Believing in the sufficiency of God's word places these people as subordinate to the scriptures and not the other way around as some religions do.

1,008 posted on 02/04/2013 9:53:26 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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