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To: CynicalBear; HarleyD; P-Marlowe

1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth

Are all men saved?

Does God know everything or Does God not know everything? Since all men are not saved, and God knows that, what does the word “will” mean?

God also has the power to just “poof” make all saved. That He doesn’t do it makes the word “will” mean what?


821 posted on 02/03/2013 2:48:03 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
God also has the power to just “poof” make all saved.

You sound like the evo's with the 'poof'. God's Will is for ALL to be saved as God so loved the world that He GAVE to ALL His only Son... Did you receive?

So talking that God has the power should not be a question or an answer - GOD IS. He is the GREAT I AM. God doesn't have power - GOD IS Power.

God is the Word, He is the Spirit, He is ALL. God says, "I've set life and death before you today: both blessings and curses. Choose life, that it may be well with you—you and your children."

He gives a choice because - what God is NOT - is controlling. Man has a choice to go either way - 'their' way or God's Way. Do you, also, want a 'poof' so you don't have to choose? Hopefully, you know what the default is.

just “poof” make all saved. That He doesn’t do it makes the word “will” mean what?

God's Word is God's Will.

847 posted on 02/03/2013 7:17:32 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: xzins
God also has the power to just “poof” make all saved.

If, as Calvinists state, God chooses some to be saved, that means He has the power to override man's will and save him whether taht person wants it or not.

If He can do that for some, why would He not do that for all?

848 posted on 02/03/2013 7:25:09 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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