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To: P-Marlowe; HarleyD; xzins; metmom; Alamo-Girl
>>I think you missed the point that Harley was trying to make.<<

I understood exactly what he was saying. It’s been the tenor of this entire thread and many other threads. The focus on “how God works” and “what God does”. The comment was made “I'm not interested in being saved per se”. Not interested in being saved per se?

Jesus suffered and died on the cross that we might be SAVED. Not that we might better understand how God works or know God. Scripture wasn’t written in such a way as to give us an intimate knowledge of the details of the workings or God or why God does things. It was written that we might be SAVED. The ultimate outcome that God wishes for us is that we might be SAVED. He sent His Son to live among us that we might be SAVED. Nearly every passage in scripture is given that we might be SAVED.

>>You need to be more thoughtful rather than responding with quick gotcha answers.<<

Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; 14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

Titus 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

>> There will be many whose concern was centered on their salvation rather than knowing God who will be smugly standing before God to whom God will say "Depart from me, I never knew you!"<<

Like I said. Satan and all the angels who rebelled with him know God and how He works. After all, they were with Him and saw Him before they rebelled.

The Israelites knew God and who He is. Still they turned away from Him. Scripture tells of many who knew God but are not saved. There is only one way to really know God and that is through salvation first. We are then given the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that we might better know God. It’s not the other way around. The entirety of scripture is written that we might be saved and thereby know God.

Ephesians 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, Acts 16:31 They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved--you and your household."

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

The correct knowledge of God is not given until there is salvation. Trying to know God without first seeking salvation is man’s way, not God’s.

Ephesians 3:17-19 NKJV that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, (18) may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height— (19) to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.

That knowledge is not given until AFTER salvation.

591 posted on 01/31/2013 6:32:56 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear; P-Marlowe; HarleyD; xzins; metmom; Alamo-Girl
Jesus suffered and died on the cross that we might be SAVED. Not that we might better understand how God works or know God.

Well, I think some have proven that last statement to be true.

Might I suggest a careful study of Psalms 119? I was going to post it but it is rather long. Yes, it's not about Christ's salvation but I think it might be useful information.

594 posted on 01/31/2013 5:52:44 PM PST by HarleyD
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