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To: Dutchboy88; HarleyD; betty boop; metmom
>>When a person refuses to look at the entire story delivered to man throughout the Scriptures, one can come away with a piece-meal, patchwork quilt that includes man's free will and misunderstandings like the above.<<

Well, you tell me what you believe. Do you believe evil comes from God as you stated in post 53?

“Lam. 3:37-38 - Everything which happens is from God (good & evil).” [post 53]

Or do you believe that God gave no choice to Adam and that He “ordained” Adam to sin?

I would suggest that those two allegations would indicate that the whole of scripture is not being taken into account.

>>The only "sick and twisted" theology around here is that man-made Arminian/Semi-Pelagian human construct nonsense touted by the RCC and many of your posts.<<

I will stick by my statement that the contention that God created this world with the intent of “predestinating” or “ordaining” man to sin giving him no option thereby causing that person to be consigned to eternal torment is indeed twisted thinking.

Again, I would ask you. Did God give Adam choice or not? If He did than you can’t say He “ordained” that Adam sin. If He didn’t than you can’t say Adam had a choice.

459 posted on 01/28/2013 8:35:42 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
"Again, I would ask you. Did God give Adam choice or not? If He did than you can’t say He “ordained” that Adam sin. If He didn’t than you can’t say Adam had a choice."

I will be happy to answer this, if you will answer the previously (twice) asked question: Do you hold that there are three groups within mankind?

1. Those who are drawn and decide to believe

2. Those who are drawn and decide to reject believing

3. Those who are not drawn

If not, please describe what you mean by men cannot choose on their own, but can resist the call.

482 posted on 01/28/2013 10:01:30 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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